Awkward Coving & Cornice

[Painters10]

I'm just finishing off a kitchen install and the last bit left is the
cornice around the top of the high cupboards.

Once I started putting the kitchen together that our ceiling is lower
than normal - about 2.3m
We have standard plaster coving around the room - 150mm?

The problem I have is the cornice is quite wide and the cupboards high
on the walls. I couldn't mount the cupboards lower as there are full
height units too (larder/oven etc)

The cornice clashes with the coving such that I have a real awkward
curve issue.
I've uploaded a photo to give an idea:
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I think there are 3 solutions:
1) Somehow scribe the cornice to the coving. I have made a cardboard
template etc but have no idea how to cut this.
2) Mark the coving and cut the coving to sit the cornice into.
3) Don't fit the cornice at all.

What would the (semi) pro carpenters and joiners do?

Thanks
Painters10

[mark]

Post by Painters10
1) Somehow scribe the cornice to the coving. I have made a cardboard
template etc but have no idea how to cut this.
2) Mark the coving and cut the coving to sit the cornice into.
3) Don't fit the cornice at all.
What would the (semi) pro carpenters and joiners do?
Thanks
Painters10

There isn't an ideal solution in my view.
I think I would be inclined to go with your second option. Chopping out the
coving to suit and its subsequent repair seems more feasible in terms of
success than scribing the cornice.
The cornice can obviously be scribed but you'd need to know what you are
doing, then if you get that right, you only have one go at cutting the mitre
at the other end as it'll be too short for a second go.


mark

[The Medway Handyman]

Post by Painters10
I'm just finishing off a kitchen install and the last bit left is the
cornice around the top of the high cupboards.
Once I started putting the kitchen together that our ceiling is lower
than normal - about 2.3m
We have standard plaster coving around the room - 150mm?
The problem I have is the cornice is quite wide and the cupboards high
on the walls. I couldn't mount the cupboards lower as there are full
height units too (larder/oven etc)
The cornice clashes with the coving such that I have a real awkward
curve issue.
http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=covepk4.jpg
1) Somehow scribe the cornice to the coving. I have made a cardboard
template etc but have no idea how to cut this.
2) Mark the coving and cut the coving to sit the cornice into.
3) Don't fit the cornice at all.
What would the (semi) pro carpenters and joiners do?

No idea, but I'd go for option 3. Coving is very dated & spoils the clean
lines of modern kitchen units IMO.

[Tim S]

Post by The Medway Handyman
No idea, but I'd go for option 3. Coving is very dated & spoils the clean
lines of modern kitchen units IMO.

What happens if you like old style units and hate bland white featureless
modern stuff?

Personally I like coving - I find the "squareness" of a wall hitting a
ceiling to be yuk.

;->

[f***@gmail.com]

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:40:38 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"

Post by The Medway Handyman

Post by Painters10
I'm just finishing off a kitchen install and the last bit left is the
cornice around the top of the high cupboards.
Once I started putting the kitchen together that our ceiling is lower
than normal - about 2.3m
We have standard plaster coving around the room - 150mm?
The problem I have is the cornice is quite wide and the cupboards high
on the walls. I couldn't mount the cupboards lower as there are full
height units too (larder/oven etc)
The cornice clashes with the coving such that I have a real awkward
curve issue.
http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=covepk4.jpg
1) Somehow scribe the cornice to the coving. I have made a cardboard
template etc but have no idea how to cut this.
2) Mark the coving and cut the coving to sit the cornice into.
3) Don't fit the cornice at all.
What would the (semi) pro carpenters and joiners do?

No idea, but I'd go for option 3. Coving is very dated & spoils the clean
lines of modern kitchen units IMO.

3) mentions cornice but you are talking about coving ???

[geraldthehamster]

Post by f***@gmail.com
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:40:38 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"

Post by Painters10
I'm just finishing off a kitchen install and the last bit left is the
cornice around the top of the high cupboards.
Once I started putting the kitchen together that our ceiling is lower
than normal - about 2.3m
We have standard plaster coving around the room - 150mm?
The problem I have is the cornice is quite wide and the cupboards high
on the walls.  I couldn't mount the cupboards lower as there are full
height units too (larder/oven etc)
The cornice clashes with the coving such that I have a real awkward
curve issue.
http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=covepk4.jpg
1) Somehow scribe the cornice to the coving.  I have made a cardboard
template etc but have no idea how to cut this.
2) Mark the coving and cut the coving to sit the cornice into.
3) Don't fit the cornice at all.
What would the (semi) pro carpenters and joiners do?

No idea, but I'd go for option 3.  Coving is very dated & spoils the clean
lines of modern kitchen units IMO.

3) mentions cornice but you are talking about coving ???- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Actually I think when he says "cornice" he's referring to the pediment
that goes on top of the cupboards...

Regards Richard

[f***@gmail.com]

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:58:30 -0800 (PST), geraldthehamster

Post by geraldthehamster

Post by f***@gmail.com
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:40:38 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"

Post by Painters10
I'm just finishing off a kitchen install and the last bit left is the
cornice around the top of the high cupboards.
Once I started putting the kitchen together that our ceiling is lower
than normal - about 2.3m
We have standard plaster coving around the room - 150mm?
The problem I have is the cornice is quite wide and the cupboards high
on the walls.  I couldn't mount the cupboards lower as there are full
height units too (larder/oven etc)
The cornice clashes with the coving such that I have a real awkward
curve issue.
http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=covepk4.jpg
1) Somehow scribe the cornice to the coving.  I have made a cardboard
template etc but have no idea how to cut this.
2) Mark the coving and cut the coving to sit the cornice into.
3) Don't fit the cornice at all.
What would the (semi) pro carpenters and joiners do?

No idea, but I'd go for option 3.  Coving is very dated & spoils the clean
lines of modern kitchen units IMO.

3) mentions cornice but you are talking about coving ???- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Actually I think when he says "cornice" he's referring to the pediment
that goes on top of the cupboards...
Regards Richard

I think you are probably right...lol

[geraldthehamster]

Post by Painters10
I'm just finishing off a kitchen install and the last bit left is the
cornice around the top of the high cupboards.
Once I started putting the kitchen together that our ceiling is lower
than normal - about 2.3m
We have standard plaster coving around the room - 150mm?
The problem I have is the cornice is quite wide and the cupboards high
on the walls.  I couldn't mount the cupboards lower as there are full
height units too (larder/oven etc)
The cornice clashes with the coving such that I have a real awkward
curve issue.
I've uploaded a photo to give an idea:http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=covepk4.jpg
1) Somehow scribe the cornice to the coving.  I have made a cardboard
template etc but have no idea how to cut this.
2) Mark the coving and cut the coving to sit the cornice into.
3) Don't fit the cornice at all.
What would the (semi) pro carpenters and joiners do?
Thanks
Painters10

I'm a bit of an approximate carpenter, but in my view it would look
better to scribe the cornice and cut to fit against the coving - that
way you are making the furniture fit the room, rather than the room
fit the furniture. 3) would be easier though ;-) Can you omit the
cornice from all the units, so that this one doesn't look an odd one
out? Or would that look wrong?

You might consider whether removing the coving altogether would make
your low ceiling look less low (hard to judge that one). But it would
be an extra decorating job to do that - removing coving, adhesive, and
making good before painting.

Regards
Richard