washing machine microplastic filters

[Tim+]

Anyone got one?

It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.

Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.

What do you all think?

Tim

[alan_m]

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?
Tim

Recycling probably just involves back flushing and disposing of the
material down the nearest drain :)

I assume that the filter may also be completely blocked more quickly by
the dirt that is being washed from the clothes.

[newshound]

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?
Tim

Eco-bollox

[Steve Walker]

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?

No thanks! With a family of five, we'd be paying for a new filter every
week and a half to a fortnight and that's a significant yearly cost on
top of the usual ones.

I can see such filters being replaced by dummies or one with the
internals removed very quickly - rather like de-catting a performance
car ... but with no MOT to catch people out.

[Rod Speed]

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filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?

Nothing that comes out of my washing machine goes anywhere near any sea.=

[NY]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?

Nothing that comes out of my washing machine goes anywhere near any sea.=

So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather than
going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

[Rod Speed]

Post by NY

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the microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we=E2=

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happening.
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convinced enough about the damage to spend =C2=A37-8 every 20 washes=

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filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?

Nothing that comes out of my washing machine goes anywhere near any =
sea.=3D

So does your waste water all evaporate

Yep.

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(as for the Dead Sea),

Nothing like the Dead Sea.

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rather than going (via a sewage works) into a river

It doesn't go into a river.

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and then the sea?

Nope.

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[Tim Lamb]

Post by NY

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on
a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?

Nothing that comes out of my washing machine goes anywhere near any sea.=

So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather
than going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

It is comforting to think that, several days after I have flushed a my
toilet, some small part will be pumped into the reservoirs that supply
drinking water to a large part of North London:-)

[NY]

Post by NY
So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather than
going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

It is comforting to think that, several days after I have flushed my
toilet, some small part will be pumped into the reservoirs that supply
drinking water to a large part of North London:-)

I once heard it described as "every drop of water that Londoners drink has
already passed through five people's kidneys". I presume that is excluding
the treated/untreated sewage that finds it way to the sea, evaporates and
falls as rain - a process that has been going on for thousands of years.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by NY

Post by NY
So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather
than going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

It is comforting to think that, several days after I have flushed my
toilet, some small part will be pumped into the reservoirs that supply
drinking water to a large part of North London:-)

I once heard it described as "every drop of water that Londoners drink
has already passed through five people's kidneys". I presume that is
excluding the treated/untreated sewage that finds it way to the sea,
evaporates and falls as rain  - a process that has been going on for
thousands of years.

I don't think treated sewage ends up in the sea.

[charles]

Post by The Natural Philosopher

Post by NY

Post by NY
So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather
than going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

It is comforting to think that, several days after I have flushed my
toilet, some small part will be pumped into the reservoirs that supply
drinking water to a large part of North London:-)

I once heard it described as "every drop of water that Londoners drink
has already passed through five people's kidneys". I presume that is
excluding the treated/untreated sewage that finds it way to the sea,
evaporates and falls as rain - a process that has been going on for
thousands of years.

I don't think treated sewage ends up in the sea.

Eventually . sometimes by way of a river. (not the solids, normally)

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by charles

Post by The Natural Philosopher

Post by NY

Post by NY
So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather
than going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

It is comforting to think that, several days after I have flushed my
toilet, some small part will be pumped into the reservoirs that supply
drinking water to a large part of North London:-)

I once heard it described as "every drop of water that Londoners drink
has already passed through five people's kidneys". I presume that is
excluding the treated/untreated sewage that finds it way to the sea,
evaporates and falls as rain - a process that has been going on for
thousands of years.

I don't think treated sewage ends up in the sea.

Eventually . sometimes by way of a river. (not the solids, normally)

The water that comes out of a sewage plant is not 'treated sewage' That
IS the solids

[NY]

Post by The Natural Philosopher

Post by NY

Post by NY
So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather
than going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

It is comforting to think that, several days after I have flushed my
toilet, some small part will be pumped into the reservoirs that supply
drinking water to a large part of North London:-)

I once heard it described as "every drop of water that Londoners drink
has already passed through five people's kidneys". I presume that is
excluding the treated/untreated sewage that finds it way to the sea,
evaporates and falls as rain - a process that has been going on for
thousands of years.

I don't think treated sewage ends up in the sea.

I don't think treated sewage (liquid only) is clean enough to feed back into
drinking water in large concentrations, though I'm sure some does end up
there after dilution with rainwater, especially in large cities. But surely
most treated sewage goes into rivers and hence to the sea for evaporation
and falling as fresh rainwater.

Solids tend to go for farmers' manure, though subject to stringent rules
about when it can be used to make sure it has biodegraded far enough by the
time crops are picked/harvested. I'm not sure whether the rules are the same
for human and pig waste (carnivore), but both are more stringent than for
cow/sheep/chicken (herbivore).

[Tim Lamb]

Post by NY

Post by The Natural Philosopher

Post by NY

Post by Tim Lamb

Post by NY
So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea),
rather than going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

It is comforting to think that, several days after I have flushed
my toilet, some small part will be pumped into the reservoirs that
supply drinking water to a large part of North London:-)

I once heard it described as "every drop of water that Londoners
drink has already passed through five people's kidneys". I presume
that is excluding the treated/untreated sewage that finds it way to
the sea, evaporates and falls as rain - a process that has been
going on for thousands of years.

I don't think treated sewage ends up in the sea.

I don't think treated sewage (liquid only) is clean enough to feed back
into drinking water in large concentrations, though I'm sure some does
end up there after dilution with rainwater, especially in large cities.
But surely most treated sewage goes into rivers and hence to the sea
for evaporation and falling as fresh rainwater.

Umm.. The plant at East Hyde, Luton was upgraded to a *polymer process*
many years ago. I believe the outfall is fed to the R. Lea.

I don't know what the dilution factor might be but the mix is reckoned
to be *potable* some 8 miles downstream.

Post by NY
Solids tend to go for farmers' manure, though subject to stringent
rules about when it can be used to make sure it has biodegraded far
enough by the time crops are picked/harvested. I'm not sure whether the
rules are the same for human and pig waste (carnivore), but both are
more stringent than for cow/sheep/chicken (herbivore).

Not used here now but stored solids were always good for a crop of
Tomatoes:-)

[Andrew]

Post by Tim Lamb
Umm.. The plant at East Hyde, Luton was upgraded to a *polymer process*
many years ago. I believe the outfall is fed to the R. Lea.

Since when the wet wipes and fat bergs all encapsulate the micro-
plastics :-)

[Tim Lamb]

Post by Andrew

Post by Tim Lamb
Umm.. The plant at East Hyde, Luton was upgraded to a *polymer
process* many years ago. I believe the outfall is fed to the R. Lea.

Since when the wet wipes and fat bergs all encapsulate the micro-
plastics :-)

Pass.

There has been some chat about injecting river water into the chalk to
enhance the *clean* water extraction rate.
I don't know if this ever got off the ground but the pumping station is
about 1 mile downstream from the sewage treatment plant!

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by NY

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
 I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?

Nothing that comes out of my washing machine goes anywhere near any sea.=

So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather
than going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

Bit of both

[Rod Speed]

Post by The Natural Philosopher

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
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microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we=E2=

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being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe =
happening.
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filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?

Nothing that comes out of my washing machine goes anywhere near any =

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sea.=3D

So does your waste water all evaporate (as for the Dead Sea), rather=

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than going (via a sewage works) into a river and then the sea?

Bit of both

Nope, none of mine ever ends up in any river.

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[alan_m]

Post by Rod Speed
Nothing that comes out of my washing machine goes anywhere near any sea.

It does where I live - a quick trip through the local water treatment
works then straight out to the river estuary and North Sea.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?
Tim

The great problem that Western economies encountered was this:

What do you give to people to do, when machines are doing all the real
work, and people largely already have everything they need, and they are
getting bored of shiny toys?

Simples!

You invent 'needs' and you invent 'jobs'...
The rest, is history

[Tim Lamb]

Post by The Natural Philosopher

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?
Tim

What do you give to people to do, when machines are doing all the real
work, and people largely already have everything they need, and they
are getting bored of shiny toys?
Simples!
You invent 'needs' and you invent 'jobs'...
The rest, is history

Planned obsolescence?

[Andy Burns]

Post by Tim+
some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.

Buy more cotton and linen!

[Andrew Gabriel]

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?

I tend to only wear cotton, and consequently almost never wash anything
made of plastic.

Of course, growing cotton kills the plant too, and today's low water
content eco machines that have to wash clothes by rubbing them together
wears them out much faster than earlier machines that washed by lifting
them in and out of the water without rubbing them together, meaning I
have to buy more cotton clothes.

It wouldn't surprise me if today's low water content eco machines
generate much more microplastics too. Many such eco policies back-fire.

Andrew

[Andrew]

Post by Tim+
Anyone got one?
It’s seems that some folk feel that we’re killing the planet with all the
microplastics from our washing machines.
Personally, I find it hard to get too worked up about something we’ve all
being doing for years without an apparent ecological catastrophe happening.
I don’t dispute the presence of microplastics in the sea but I’m not
convinced enough about the damage to spend £7-8 every 20 washes on a filter
system that has to be posted back for recycling.
What do you all think?
Tim

Wash things like fleeces as little as possible.