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Jethro_uk
2024-02-10 13:24:13 UTC
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Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.

(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
Bob Eager
2024-02-10 13:46:40 UTC
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Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
But do they tell you how long a lettuce (or King Charles) will last?
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Jethro_uk
2024-02-10 14:18:07 UTC
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Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
But do they tell you how long a lettuce (or King Charles) will last?
There was a satirical piece in the register over 15 years ago about an
"app" that could scan fruit and veg and give you the use by date ...
alan_m
2024-02-10 14:30:14 UTC
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Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
But do they tell you how long a lettuce (or King Charles) will last?
There was a satirical piece in the register over 15 years ago about an
"app" that could scan fruit and veg and give you the use by date ...
Sometimes you can just use your eyes to tell you how long something is
going to last BUT you first have to remove the item away from the
lighting illumination the shelving. Supermarkets are very good at
proving green lighting for fruit/veg, red lighting for meat etc.
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alan_m
2024-02-10 14:20:59 UTC
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Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and
vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales. Some
supermarkets were selling many tons more carrots than they put on the
shelves.

I note in some of te supermarkets many more cameras monitoring the
individual self service checkouts
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Joe
2024-02-10 15:20:39 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:20:59 +0000
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Post by Jethro_uk
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit
and vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales. Some
supermarkets were selling many tons more carrots than they put on
the shelves.
I note in some of te supermarkets many more cameras monitoring the
individual self service checkouts
Costco and Walmart in the US have closed some self-service tills,
allegedly due to 'losses'.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/13/business/self-checkout-stores-shopping/index.html
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SteveW
2024-02-10 22:53:03 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:20:59 +0000
Post by alan_m
Post by Jethro_uk
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit
and vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales. Some
supermarkets were selling many tons more carrots than they put on
the shelves.
I note in some of te supermarkets many more cameras monitoring the
individual self service checkouts
Costco and Walmart in the US have closed some self-service tills,
allegedly due to 'losses'.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/13/business/self-checkout-stores-shopping/index.html
I wish Sainsburys near here would do away with some and man more proper
tills.

I'm fed up of long queues at the trolley self-service, because no tills
are manned and the basket self-service is closed, so that they only need
one member of staff.

I'm fed up of scanning a bottle of alcohol (or even alcohol free wine or
beer) and having it flag up as needing approval and needing a tag taken
off, so I can't pack it and end up with the heavy liquids on top of
stuff that gets squashed. Even worse, they now have changed to okaying
the purchase, but they don't take the tag off until after you've paid -
and of course they are then tied up with someone else and you're stuck,
trying to get their attention

It's so much easier to go through the manned till, if any are open.
The Natural Philosopher
2024-02-11 09:01:22 UTC
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Post by SteveW
I'm fed up of scanning a bottle of alcohol (or even alcohol free wine or
beer) and having it flag up as needing approval and needing a tag taken
off, so I can't pack it and end up with the heavy liquids on top of
stuff that gets squashed. Even worse, they now have changed to okaying
the purchase, but they don't take the tag off until after you've paid -
and of course they are then tied up with someone else and you're stuck,
trying to get their attention
Shop at Waitrose, instead.

Scan alcohol, position starts flashing, carry on packing till assistant
rocks up, confirms that you are not underage, and that's it. No tags on
on the first place.
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SteveW
2024-02-11 17:43:09 UTC
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Post by SteveW
I'm fed up of scanning a bottle of alcohol (or even alcohol free wine
or beer) and having it flag up as needing approval and needing a tag
taken off, so I can't pack it and end up with the heavy liquids on top
of stuff that gets squashed. Even worse, they now have changed to
okaying the purchase, but they don't take the tag off until after
you've paid - and of course they are then tied up with someone else
and you're stuck, trying to get their attention
Shop at Waitrose, instead.
Scan alcohol, position starts flashing, carry on packing till assistant
rocks up, confirms that you are not underage, and that's it. No tags on
on the first place.
Unfortunately, Sainsburys is 5 minutes away, while Waitrose is 30
minutes away, so not really worth the effort for just a few items.
The Natural Philosopher
2024-02-11 20:40:06 UTC
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Post by SteveW
I'm fed up of scanning a bottle of alcohol (or even alcohol free wine
or beer) and having it flag up as needing approval and needing a tag
taken off, so I can't pack it and end up with the heavy liquids on
top of stuff that gets squashed. Even worse, they now have changed to
okaying the purchase, but they don't take the tag off until after
you've paid - and of course they are then tied up with someone else
and you're stuck, trying to get their attention
Shop at Waitrose, instead.
Scan alcohol, position starts flashing, carry on packing till
assistant rocks up, confirms that you are not underage, and that's it.
No tags on on the first place.
Unfortunately, Sainsburys is 5 minutes away, while Waitrose is 30
minutes away, so not really worth the effort for just a few items.
Sainsbury's is either 35 minutes away or 50. Oddly enough two Waitroses
in different towns are my nearest stores, with Tescos very close behind.
Maybe Lidl and Aldi are fractionally closer in the town I don't visit
that often, but I didn't find they had the stuff I wanted.
My favourite Waitrose is a very relaxed 25 minute country drive. Ample
parking, relaxed and friendly staff. I don't care if it's ten quid more
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2024-02-12 20:07:29 UTC
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Post by SteveW
I'm fed up of scanning a bottle of alcohol (or even alcohol free wine
or beer) and having it flag up as needing approval and needing a tag
taken off, so I can't pack it and end up with the heavy liquids on
top of stuff that gets squashed. Even worse, they now have changed to
okaying the purchase, but they don't take the tag off until after
you've paid - and of course they are then tied up with someone else
and you're stuck, trying to get their attention
Shop at Waitrose, instead.
Scan alcohol, position starts flashing, carry on packing till
assistant rocks up, confirms that you are not underage, and that's it.
No tags on on the first place.
Unfortunately, Sainsburys is 5 minutes away, while Waitrose is 30
minutes away, so not really worth the effort for just a few items.
Sainsbury's is either 35 minutes away or 50. Oddly enough two Waitroses
in different towns are my nearest stores, with Tescos very close behind.
Maybe Lidl and Aldi are fractionally closer in the town I don't visit
that often, but I didn't find they had the stuff I wanted.
My favourite Waitrose is a very relaxed 25 minute country drive. Ample
parking, relaxed and friendly staff. I don't care if it's ten quid more
Waitrose is only £10 more if you're just spending a fiver. OTOH Their Patak's were cheaper than Tesco last time.
Tim Streater
2024-02-10 15:55:42 UTC
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Post by Jethro_uk
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and
vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
Why might they do that?
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The Natural Philosopher
2024-02-10 16:23:46 UTC
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Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and
vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
Why might they do that?
Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
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Tim Streater
2024-02-10 17:07:25 UTC
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On 10 Feb 2024 at 16:23:46 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
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Post by alan_m
Post by Jethro_uk
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and
vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
Why might they do that?
Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
In the hope that the checkout person doesn't see the words "Loose carrots" in
large text on the sticky label the scroat has attached to the avocado?
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The Natural Philosopher
2024-02-10 17:37:05 UTC
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On 10 Feb 2024 at 16:23:46 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by Tim Streater
Post by alan_m
Post by Jethro_uk
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and
vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
Why might they do that?
Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
In the hope that the checkout person doesn't see the words "Loose carrots" in
large text on the sticky label the scroat has attached to the avocado?
might be self service checkout.
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Peter Johnson
2024-02-10 17:39:30 UTC
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Why might they do that?
Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
In the hope that the checkout person doesn't see the words "Loose carrots" in
large text on the sticky label the scroat has attached to the avocado?
The customer using the self service scales and misidentifying the
produce will also be using the self-service checkout.
Tim Streater
2024-02-10 22:02:55 UTC
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Why might they do that?
Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
In the hope that the checkout person doesn't see the words "Loose carrots" in
large text on the sticky label the scroat has attached to the avocado?
The customer using the self service scales and misidentifying the
produce will also be using the self-service checkout.
Certainly. But such get checked from time to time.
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ken
2024-02-10 18:01:15 UTC
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Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and
vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
Why might they do that?
Because they are cheaper.
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2024-02-10 20:20:00 UTC
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Jethro_uk
2024-02-11 18:04:06 UTC
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Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
SWMBO has just reminded me that the mushrooms we were weighing were in an
opaque reusable bag - and therefore not immediately discernable as
mushrooms. Yet the scales correctly selected "mushrooms" as the item to
weigh.

I suspect there is a little bit more computing going on somewhere ...
maybe a crude density calculation to act as a double-check.

If only they'd deployed this level of computing power when Covid loans
were being dished out.
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