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Tim Streater
2025-02-02 14:47:30 UTC
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Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.

Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.

Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
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Davey
2025-02-02 14:50:57 UTC
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On 2 Feb 2025 14:47:30 GMT
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our
village mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them
half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those that perches
on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Here in Suffolk, there was a spate of this a couple of years ago.
They were all old historical ones. I don't know if any were ever
recovered.
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Tim Streater
2025-02-02 14:53:00 UTC
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On 2 Feb 2025 14:47:30 GMT
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our
village mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them
half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those that perches
on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Here in Suffolk, there was a spate of this a couple of years ago.
They were all old historical ones. I don't know if any were ever
recovered.
OK.

The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E II R on
it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look yet).
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alan_m
2025-02-02 16:23:24 UTC
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The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E II R on
it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look yet).
It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with C
III R on them? I presume they will not be replacing any existing post
boxes with rebranded versions and would be replacing any vandalised or
stolen ones with existing stock.
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Tim Streater
2025-02-02 18:28:13 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E II R on
it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look yet).
It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with C
III R on them?
Tradition.
Post by alan_m
I presume they will not be replacing any existing post boxes with rebranded
versions
They've never done that.
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Bob Eager
2025-02-02 18:59:26 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E
II R on it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look
yet).
It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with C
III R on them? I presume they will not be replacing any existing post
boxes with rebranded versions and would be replacing any vandalised or
stolen ones with existing stock.
If it's not Royal Mail, what is it?
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Andrew
2025-02-02 19:52:03 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E
II R on it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look
yet).
It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with C
III R on them? I presume they will not be replacing any existing post
boxes with rebranded versions and would be replacing any vandalised or
stolen ones with existing stock.
If it's not Royal Mail, what is it?
KRÁLOVSKÁ POŠTA :-) (according to Google translate)
alan_m
2025-02-02 20:02:19 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E
II R on it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look
yet).
It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with C
III R on them?  I presume they will not be replacing any existing post
boxes with rebranded versions and would be replacing any vandalised or
stolen ones with existing stock.
If it's not Royal Mail, what is it?
KRÁLOVSKÁ POŠTA  :-) (according to Google translate)
but, since 2022

IDS (International Distributions Services plc)
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Biggles
2025-02-02 20:55:57 UTC
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On 02/02/2025 19:52, Andrew wrote:> On 02/02/2025 18:59, Bob Eager wrote:>> On Sun, 02 Feb 2025 16:23:24 +0000, alan_m wrote:>>>>> On 02/02/2025 14:53, Tim Streater wrote:>>>>>>>>>> The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E>>>> II R on it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look>>>> yet).>>>>>>>>> It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with C>>> III R on them? I presume they will not be replacing any existing post>>> boxes with rebranded versions and would be replacing any vandalised or>>> stolen ones with existing stock.>>>> If it's not Royal Mail, what is it?>>>>>>> KRÁLOVSKÁ PO?TA :-) (according to Google translate)> but, since 2022IDS (International Distributions Services plc)-- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk
That's the parent company. It is still Royal Mail who deliver
letters and parcels in the UK.

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Scott
2025-02-03 10:22:09 UTC
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On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 20:55:57 +0000 (GMT), Biggles
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On 02/02/2025 19:52, Andrew wrote:> On 02/02/2025 18:59, Bob Eager wrote:>> On Sun, 02 Feb 2025 16:23:24 +0000, alan_m wrote:>>>>> On 02/02/2025 14:53, Tim Streater wrote:>>>>>>>>>> The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E>>>> II R on it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look>>>> yet).>>>>>>>>> It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with C>>> III R on them? I presume they will not be replacing any existing post>>> boxes with rebranded versions and would be replacing any vandalised or>>> stolen ones with existing stock.>>>> If it's not Royal Mail, what is it?>>>>>>> KRÁLOVSKÁ PO?TA :-) (according to Google translate)> but, since 2022IDS (International Distributions Services plc)-- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk
That's the parent company. It is still Royal Mail who deliver
letters and parcels in the UK.
Did they change the name from International Distributions Services to
International Distribution Services?
Andy Burns
2025-02-03 10:26:01 UTC
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Did they change the name from International Distributions Services to
International Distribution Services?
Apparently, yes.

[source:wikip, ICBA to check companies house filings, but I'd expect it
would confirm]
NY
2025-02-03 12:14:26 UTC
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Post by Scott
Did they change the name from International Distributions Services to
International Distribution Services?
Apparently, yes.
[source:wikip, ICBA to check companies house filings, but I'd expect it
would confirm]
So "International Distribution*s* Services" wasn't just a typo in this
thread?
Andy Burns
2025-02-03 13:48:56 UTC
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Did they change the name from International Distributions Services to
International Distribution Services?
Apparently, yes.
So "International Distribution*s* Services" wasn't just a typo in this
thread?
No ...

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If the horrible URL expires see the filings under

<https://find-and-update.company-information.service.g
Bob Eager
2025-02-03 00:23:54 UTC
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The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say
E II R on it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close
look yet).
It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with
C III R on them?  I presume they will not be replacing any existing
post boxes with rebranded versions and would be replacing any
vandalised or stolen ones with existing stock.
If it's not Royal Mail, what is it?
KRÁLOVSKÁ POŠTA  (according to Google translate)
but, since 2022
IDS (International Distributions Services plc)
It's still branded Royal Mail, so the brand goes on the boxes.
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2025-02-02 20:11:48 UTC
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If it's not Royal Mail, what is it?
Royal Mail is owned by International Distribution Services (IDS), which
is owned by EP Group. The founder and chairman of EP Group is Daniel
Křetínský, a Czech businessman and lawyer.


Royal Mail was previously owned by the UK government, but was privatized
in 2013.

The government approved the sale of Royal Mail's parent firm to EP
Group. Křetínský's EP Group has said it wants to make Royal Mail a
successful postal operator that provides high-quality service.
Křetínský has said that owning Royal Mail comes with a huge
responsibility to the employees and citizens who rely on its services.
Fredxx
2025-02-03 13:06:58 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E II R on
it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look yet).
It's no longer Royal Mail so why would they make any post boxes with C
III R on them?  I presume they will not be replacing any existing post
boxes with rebranded versions and would be replacing any vandalised or
stolen ones with existing stock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Mail

It is still Royal Mail Group Limited but that entity is a wholly owned
subsidiary of International Distribution Services plc.
Colin Bignell
2025-02-03 09:33:14 UTC
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Post by Davey
On 2 Feb 2025 14:47:30 GMT
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our
village mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them
half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those that perches
on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Here in Suffolk, there was a spate of this a couple of years ago.
They were all old historical ones. I don't know if any were ever
recovered.
OK.
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E II R on
it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look yet).
As with the traditional pillar boxes, new ones with the C III R crest
will only be put up once the stock of E I R ones is exhausted.
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Tim Streater
2025-02-03 10:36:20 UTC
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Post by Davey
On 2 Feb 2025 14:47:30 GMT
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our
village mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them
half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those that perches
on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Here in Suffolk, there was a spate of this a couple of years ago.
They were all old historical ones. I don't know if any were ever
recovered.
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E II R on
it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look yet).
As with the traditional pillar boxes, new ones with the C III R crest
will only be put up once the stock of E I R ones is exhausted.
That should have happened some hundreds of years ago, I would have thought.
:-)
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Colin Bignell
2025-02-03 11:51:22 UTC
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Post by Davey
On 2 Feb 2025 14:47:30 GMT
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our
village mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them
half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those that perches
on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Here in Suffolk, there was a spate of this a couple of years ago.
They were all old historical ones. I don't know if any were ever
recovered.
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E II R on
it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look yet).
As with the traditional pillar boxes, new ones with the C III R crest
will only be put up once the stock of E I R ones is exhausted.
That should have happened some hundreds of years ago, I would have thought.
:-)
:-)
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charles
2025-02-03 12:15:03 UTC
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Post by Colin Bignell
Post by Tim Streater
Post by Davey
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but
our village mag, received today, indicates that there were three of
them half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those that
perches on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no letter
box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Here in Suffolk, there was a spate of this a couple of years ago.
They were all old historical ones. I don't know if any were ever
recovered.
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E
II R on it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look
yet).
As with the traditional pillar boxes, new ones with the C III R crest
will only be put up once the stock of E I R ones is exhausted.
That should have happened some hundreds of years ago, I would have thought.
:-)
:-)
The problem arose because, as far as Scotland was/is concerned Queen
Elizabeth was not the 2nd of Scotland - only the 1st. Letter boxes with
EIIR were being blown up. So, letter boxes in Scotland don't have any
sovereign's insinia. It's years since I looked, but I think it's just a
crown.
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brian
2025-02-03 12:43:36 UTC
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On 2 Feb 2025 14:47:30 GMT
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our
village mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them
half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those that perches
on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Here in Suffolk, there was a spate of this a couple of years ago.
They were all old historical ones. I don't know if any were ever
recovered.
OK.
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say E II R on
it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close look yet).
As with the traditional pillar boxes, new ones with the C III R crest
will only be put up once the stock of E I R ones is exhausted.
It seems the ones in Scotland will continue to have the Scottish Crown
only , as will the post office vans.

Brian
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Roland Perry
2025-02-03 14:54:54 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our
village mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them
half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those that perches
on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Here in Suffolk, there was a spate of this a couple of years ago.
They were all old historical ones. I don't know if any were ever
recovered.
OK.
The one I saw appears to have been replaced. But it apppears to say
E II R on it rather than C III R (haven't had a chance for a close
look yet).
As with the traditional pillar boxes, new ones with the C III R crest
will only be put up once the stock of E I R ones is exhausted.
The first was installed in Cambourne (Cambs) on 12th July 2024.
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2025-02-02 20:32:19 UTC
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Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Probably sell them on ebay for thousands as decorative retro-chic items
for your living space...
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NY
2025-02-02 21:20:06 UTC
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Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was surprised to see what looks like an authentic modern Royal Mail
pillar box in a neighbour's garden close to the fence next to the
pavement. There is a sign saying that it's being used as this person's
mailbox, for the postman to deliver to, and that people shouldn't post
stamped mail and expect Royal Mail to collect from it.

What made me laugh was that just after they put it there, they were
moaning on the village Facebook group that people were posting letters
into it. I thought "well, if it looks like a pillar box, what do you
bloody expect?"

Did Royal Mail ever sell off old pillar boxes which were no longer
needed/used (eg if one developed a fault and had to be replaced), or
would this one be a replica?
Tim Streater
2025-02-02 22:25:08 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was surprised to see what looks like an authentic modern Royal Mail
pillar box in a neighbour's garden close to the fence next to the
pavement. There is a sign saying that it's being used as this person's
mailbox, for the postman to deliver to, and that people shouldn't post
stamped mail and expect Royal Mail to collect from it.
What made me laugh was that just after they put it there, they were
moaning on the village Facebook group that people were posting letters
into it. I thought "well, if it looks like a pillar box, what do you
bloody expect?"
Did Royal Mail ever sell off old pillar boxes which were no longer
needed/used (eg if one developed a fault and had to be replaced), or
would this one be a replica?
There's one like that near us. But it's obviously on the geezer's property,
not on the road, and it's clearly marked as to what its use is. Not that this
always helps - there's plenty of loonies around who haven't got a clue.
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Andrew
2025-02-07 23:28:12 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was surprised to see what looks like an authentic modern Royal Mail
pillar box in a neighbour's garden close to the fence next to the
pavement. There is a sign saying that it's being used as this person's
mailbox, for the postman to deliver to, and that people shouldn't post
stamped mail and expect Royal Mail to collect from it.
What made me laugh was that just after they put it there, they were
moaning on the village Facebook group that people were posting letters
into it. I thought "well, if it looks like a pillar box, what do you
bloody expect?"
Did Royal Mail ever sell off old pillar boxes which were no longer
needed/used (eg if one developed a fault and had to be replaced), or
would this one be a replica?
There's one like that near us. But it's obviously on the geezer's property,
not on the road, and it's clearly marked as to what its use is. Not that this
always helps - there's plenty of loonies around who haven't got a clue.
There's one near me, but it has recently been painted black for some
reason. The genuine one is about 30 yards down the road.
HVS
2025-02-03 18:36:05 UTC
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Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but
our village mag, received today, indicates that there were three
of them half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those
that perches on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no
letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Dunno, but the scrap value of cast iron must be a lot higher than I
thought it was if nicking one of those is worth the effort.

The ones that look like they're sitting on the ground used to have
about the same height of what you see above ground hidden underground.
You don't just pick up a length of cast iron like that and carry it
back home.....
Timatmarford
2025-02-03 19:51:19 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a
letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but
our village mag, received today, indicates that there were three
of them half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of those
that perches on top of a pole - the pole was still there but no
letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
Dunno, but the scrap value of cast iron must be a lot higher than I
thought it was if nicking one of those is worth the effort.
The ones that look like they're sitting on the ground used to have
about the same height of what you see above ground hidden underground.
You don't just pick up a length of cast iron like that and carry it
back home.....
Hmm.. Pikey truck with a HIAB
Adam Funk
2025-02-04 13:24:29 UTC
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Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
Tim Streater
2025-02-04 17:52:38 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
--
Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.

Terry Pratchett
SteveW
2025-02-04 18:09:02 UTC
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Post by Adam Funk
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.

Take a look at the left and right ones in this picture:

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Tim Streater
2025-02-04 22:37:52 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Post by Adam Funk
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
That image brings Monty Python to mind, not sure why.
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SteveW
2025-02-04 23:25:10 UTC
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Post by SteveW
Post by Tim Streater
Post by Adam Funk
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
That image brings Monty Python to mind, not sure why.
Now you've said it, I can't get the image out of my mind.
Joe
2025-02-05 08:30:23 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Post by SteveW
On 4 Feb 2025 at 13:24:29 GMT, "Adam Funk"
Post by Adam Funk
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts
a letter, not the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one
but our village mag, received today, indicates that there were
three of them half-inched. The one I saw was missing was one of
those that perches on top of a pole - the pole was still there
but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of
anchorage in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath
the letter box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with
no letter box on top of it.
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized
ones, planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of
them buried and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
That image brings Monty Python to mind, not sure why.
Now you've said it, I can't get the image out of my mind.
Frost Report? "I look down on him..."
--
Joe
Ian Jackson
2025-02-05 22:09:01 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Post by SteveW
Post by Tim Streater
Post by Adam Funk
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
That image brings Monty Python to mind, not sure why.
Now you've said it, I can't get the image out of my mind.
The Knights who say "Ni", or even the Black Knight after King Arthur cut
his arms off?
--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements
Tim Streater
2025-02-06 12:56:05 UTC
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Post by SteveW
Post by Tim Streater
Post by SteveW
Post by Tim Streater
Post by Adam Funk
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
That image brings Monty Python to mind, not sure why.
Now you've said it, I can't get the image out of my mind.
The Knights who say "Ni", or even the Black Knight after King Arthur cut
his arms off?
That sort of thing.

The nicked letter box has been replaced, but it's not inservice yet. There's a
panel across the opening, thus preventing letters being posted, and no panel
showing the collection times. Different department, I assume.
--
Tim
SteveW
2025-02-06 17:57:14 UTC
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Post by SteveW
Post by Tim Streater
Post by Adam Funk
Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
 That image brings Monty Python to mind, not sure why.
Now you've said it, I can't get the image out of my mind.
The Knights who say "Ni", or even the Black Knight after King Arthur cut
his arms off?
I was thinking Arthur and the Black Knight.
Another John
2025-02-07 16:58:25 UTC
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That image brings Monty Python to mind, not sure why.
Now you've said it, I can't get the image out of my mind.
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Don't we mean "That was the Week that Was"? Which had the sketch featuring
John Cleese (monied classes), Ronnie Barker (middle classes) and Ronnie
Corbett (working class). (Though in size order, so that the first two could
look down on the third).

Re "Royal Mail" - the fact that it continued to be called "Royal Mail" after
privatisation always makes me think that the government of the time were so
bloody keen to sell it off to any hard-nosed buyer that they would promise
_anything_ - including Her Maj's imprimature and name.
Like all our public services, it used to be ours, now it's not. But hey: look
at all hte benefits that the privatisation has brought!

John
Tim Streater
2025-02-09 16:11:02 UTC
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Like all our public services, it used to be ours, now it's not.
It was never ours. Like all nationalised stuff, it belonged to an entity known
as "The Government", which could do what it liked with it. What d'ye mean,
"ours"? Had share certificates, did you?
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The Natural Philosopher
2025-02-09 20:29:31 UTC
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Like all our public services, it used to be ours, now it's not.
It was never ours. Like all nationalised stuff, it belonged to an entity known
as "The Government", which could do what it liked with it. What d'ye mean,
"ours"? Had share certificates, did you?
It is a fallacy the Left use that nationalised services 'belong to the
peepul'. They never did.
They are funded by the peepul but belong to whitehall and the unions.
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Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.
Another John
2025-02-11 19:44:52 UTC
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Post by Another John
Like all our public services, it used to be ours, now it's not.
It was never ours. Like all nationalised stuff, it belonged to an entity known
as "The Government", which could do what it liked with it. What d'ye mean,
"ours"? Had share certificates, did you?
It is a fallacy the Left use that nationalised services 'belong to the
peepul'. They never did.
They are funded by the peepul but belong to whitehall and the unions.
By "ours" I mean "Us: the Community of the Nation of the United Kingdom".
Part of our Common Wealth, to be run for our benefit by the Government of the
day. (It takes _taxes_ to do this, but successive Governments, for a few
decades now, never admit it this, and never try try to persuade (or rather:
teach) the population thar if taxes are continuously cut, public services will
go down the toilet.

So: privatised public services used to belong to us, but now to whom do they
belong? Giant corporations - all of them foreign - who have never been able to
believe their luck, when the Tories decided that the best way to avoid
squaring the circle of low taxes versus good public services would be to flog
them all off, to whoever would take them, so that _they_ could be blamed when
the railways fell apart, and the bus companies, and the Very Wonderful Private
Energy industry, which does such a great job of keeping prces fair and simple.
Profit - preferably as excessive as you can make it - is all.

I would be less cheesed off about all of this, if the people who run these
"businesses" got paid such astronomical rewards, on the mutual merry-ground of
"top people".

Go ahead.

J.
SteveW
2025-02-11 21:45:24 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Post by Another John
Like all our public services, it used to be ours, now it's not.
It was never ours. Like all nationalised stuff, it belonged to an entity known
as "The Government", which could do what it liked with it. What d'ye mean,
"ours"? Had share certificates, did you?
It is a fallacy the Left use that nationalised services 'belong to the
peepul'. They never did.
They are funded by the peepul but belong to whitehall and the unions.
By "ours" I mean "Us: the Community of the Nation of the United Kingdom".
Part of our Common Wealth, to be run for our benefit by the Government of the
day. (It takes _taxes_ to do this, but successive Governments, for a few
teach) the population thar if taxes are continuously cut, public services will
go down the toilet.
So: privatised public services used to belong to us, but now to whom do they
belong? Giant corporations - all of them foreign - who have never been able to
believe their luck, when the Tories decided that the best way to avoid
squaring the circle of low taxes versus good public services would be to flog
them all off, to whoever would take them, so that _they_ could be blamed when
the railways fell apart, and the bus companies, and the Very Wonderful Private
Energy industry, which does such a great job of keeping prces fair and simple.
Profit - preferably as excessive as you can make it - is all.
I would be less cheesed off about all of this, if the people who run these
"businesses" got paid such astronomical rewards, on the mutual merry-ground of
"top people".
Go ahead.
Taxes are already high. I don't bother with overtime, because I'm not
willing to sacrifice my precious free time, only to have 40% income tax
+ 2% national insurance + another 13.8% (as a contractor I pay both
employee's and employer's NI) taken in tax. Then I am charged 20% VAT
when I spend it. Then there's having to pay into a pension, due to the
UK's pitifully low state pension.

On top of that there's fuel duty, VED, insurance tax, council tax,
councils grabbing every penny by charging high rates for parking,
congestion charges, low emission zone fines, tolls and a whole lot more.

After all that, I am expected to pay £1000 a months for accommodation,
while two of my sons are away at university.

My wife is disabled and so our home needs heating 24 hours a day and the
costs of that are going up and up.

We go out very little. There's little enough left for hobbies to have
some enjoyment in life and there'd be little point to life with even
higher taxes.

Yes, you could tax the highest earners a bit more - but push too much
and, as has been seen lately, they can decide that they are better off
emigrating.
Nick Finnigan
2025-02-11 22:26:39 UTC
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Taxes are already high. I don't bother with overtime, because I'm not
willing to sacrifice my precious free time, only to have 40% income tax +
2% national insurance + another 13.8% (as a contractor I pay both
employee's and employer's NI) taken in tax. Then I am charged 20% VAT when
I spend it. Then there's having to pay into a pension, due to the UK's
pitifully low state pension.
Then there's the opportunity to pay directly into a pension fund, with no
income tax nor NI, and no government control of the fund.
Andrew
2025-02-11 23:02:37 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by Tim Streater
Post by Another John
Like all our public services, it used to be ours, now it's not.
It was never ours. Like all nationalised stuff, it belonged to an entity known
as "The Government", which could do what it liked with it. What d'ye mean,
"ours"? Had share certificates, did you?
It is a fallacy the Left use that nationalised services 'belong to the
peepul'. They never did.
They are funded by the peepul but belong to whitehall and the unions.
By "ours" I mean "Us: the Community of the Nation of the United Kingdom".
Part of our Common Wealth, to be run for our benefit by the Government of the
day.  (It takes _taxes_ to do this, but successive Governments, for a few
teach) the population thar if taxes are continuously cut, public services will
go down the toilet.
So: privatised public services used to belong to us, but now to whom do they
belong? Giant corporations - all of them foreign - who have never been able to
believe their luck, when the Tories decided that the best way to avoid
squaring the circle of low taxes versus good public services would be to flog
them all off, to whoever would take them, so that _they_ could be blamed when
the railways fell apart, and the bus companies, and the Very Wonderful Private
Energy industry, which does such a great job of keeping prces fair and simple.
     Profit - preferably as excessive as you can make it - is all.
I would be less cheesed off about all of this, if the people who run these
"businesses" got paid such astronomical rewards, on the mutual merry-ground of
"top people".
Go ahead.
Taxes are already high. I don't bother with overtime, because I'm not
willing to sacrifice my precious free time, only to have 40% income tax
+ 2% national insurance + another 13.8% (as a contractor I pay both
employee's and employer's NI) taken in tax. Then I am charged 20% VAT
when I spend it. Then there's having to pay into a pension, due to the
UK's pitifully low state pension.
But you can still pay 100% of your income into a pension and get full
tax and NI relief.
In practice you can decide how much *gross* your ltd co can afford
to pay into your SIPP and that massively reduces your liability to
employers NI
Post by SteveW
On top of that there's fuel duty, VED, insurance tax, council tax,
councils grabbing every penny by charging high rates for parking,
congestion charges, low emission zone fines, tolls and a whole lot more.
But you have a free EV thanks to your wifes condition which you use
for your daily commute and when she is with you that nice free-parking
blue badge covers that, surely.
Post by SteveW
After all that, I am expected to pay £1000 a months for accommodation,
while two of my sons are away at university.
Who should pay for their accomodation ?
Post by SteveW
My wife is disabled and so our home needs heating 24 hours a day and the
costs of that are going up and up.
Should have spent more money and effort on insulating your house when
energy costs were 'cheap'. Your choice.
SteveW
2025-02-12 00:04:59 UTC
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Post by SteveW
On 9 Feb 2025 at 20:29:31 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by Tim Streater
Post by Another John
Like all our public services, it used to be ours, now it's not.
It was never ours. Like all nationalised stuff, it belonged to an entity known
as "The Government", which could do what it liked with it. What d'ye mean,
"ours"? Had share certificates, did you?
It is a fallacy the Left use that nationalised services 'belong to the
peepul'. They never did.
They are funded by the peepul but belong to whitehall and the unions.
By "ours" I mean "Us: the Community of the Nation of the United Kingdom".
Part of our Common Wealth, to be run for our benefit by the
Government of the
day.  (It takes _taxes_ to do this, but successive Governments, for a few
teach) the population thar if taxes are continuously cut, public services will
go down the toilet.
So: privatised public services used to belong to us, but now to whom do they
belong? Giant corporations - all of them foreign - who have never been able to
believe their luck, when the Tories decided that the best way to avoid
squaring the circle of low taxes versus good public services would be to flog
them all off, to whoever would take them, so that _they_ could be blamed when
the railways fell apart, and the bus companies, and the Very
Wonderful Private
Energy industry, which does such a great job of keeping prces fair and simple.
     Profit - preferably as excessive as you can make it - is all.
I would be less cheesed off about all of this, if the people who run these
"businesses" got paid such astronomical rewards, on the mutual merry-
ground of
"top people".
Go ahead.
Taxes are already high. I don't bother with overtime, because I'm not
willing to sacrifice my precious free time, only to have 40% income
tax + 2% national insurance + another 13.8% (as a contractor I pay
both employee's and employer's NI) taken in tax. Then I am charged 20%
VAT when I spend it. Then there's having to pay into a pension, due to
the UK's pitifully low state pension.
But you can still pay 100% of your income into a pension and get full
tax and NI relief.
In practice you can decide how much *gross* your ltd co can afford
to pay into your SIPP and that massively reduces your liability to
employers NI
Post by SteveW
On top of that there's fuel duty, VED, insurance tax, council tax,
councils grabbing every penny by charging high rates for parking,
congestion charges, low emission zone fines, tolls and a whole lot more.
But you have a free EV thanks to your wifes condition which you use
for your daily commute and when she is with you that nice free-parking
blue badge covers that, surely.
Post by SteveW
After all that, I am expected to pay £1000 a months for accommodation,
while two of my sons are away at university.
Who should pay for their accomodation ?
Most students get a living costs loan, but because our household has a
higher income (note it only looks at income and not what remains after
fixed outgoings), ours sons only get half of that, which is enough for
food and clothing, but with nothing left for accommodation - WE are
expected to pay that.
Post by Andrew
Post by SteveW
My wife is disabled and so our home needs heating 24 hours a day and
the costs of that are going up and up.
Should have spent more money and effort on insulating your house when
energy costs were 'cheap'. Your choice.
We have cavity wall insulation, loft insulation and double glazing, we
can't afford to do more at the moment.
Andy Burns
2025-02-12 08:49:58 UTC
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Post by SteveW
Then there's having to pay into a pension, due to
the UK's pitifully low state pension.
But you can still pay 100% of your income into a pension and get full
tax and NI relief.
If you are lucky enough to be able pay more than £60k/year (modulo
carry-forward from unused years) into a pension, you won't get full relief.
Chris J Dixon
2025-02-05 08:26:05 UTC
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Post by SteveW
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
That image brings Monty Python to mind, not sure why.
Close, I guess it is John Cleese that confused you. It was
actually from The Frost Report.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_sketch
https://metro.co.uk/video/ronnie-corbett-s-classic-class-sketch-1278885/

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Another John
2025-02-07 17:08:55 UTC
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Close, I guess it is John Cleese that confused you. It was
actually from The Frost Report.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_sketch
Ah i was wrong I see -- I was going even further back (3 or so years), to
TWTWTW.

Reading the Wiki entry on that programme...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Was_the_Week_That_Was
quite astonishing to see how savagely bold the Beeb could be then, and the
language!!! (every other word of which would get you hung drawn and quartered
(metaphorically old chap!) today).

But I see also that Ian J has said: "The Knights who say "Ni", or even the
Black Knight after King Arthur cut his arms off?"
Yeah -- probably that!

John
Adam Funk
2025-02-05 11:48:29 UTC
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Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
Aha, I forgot about the ones on poles.
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The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
That's what I had in mind.
Andrew
2025-02-07 09:27:51 UTC
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The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
Which does leave me wondering why, in 1953, they decided that a new post
box required a shallower hole than an old one.
Marland
2025-02-08 09:15:24 UTC
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Post by SteveW
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
Which does leave me wondering why, in 1953, they decided that a new post
box required a shallower hole than an old one.
Just a guess but maybe when the design originated the pit and then the fill
was all done by hand,
by the fifties powered tools could be used, shallower hole but an ability
to compact the ground harder than by hand.

GH
Tim+
2025-02-08 11:52:40 UTC
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Post by SteveW
The small ones, on poles, would be pretty easy. The full-sized ones,
planted directly into the ground, seem to have about 1/3 of them buried
and are pretty immovable.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aYrA8Am_700b.jpg
Which does leave me wondering why, in 1953, they decided that a new post
box required a shallower hole than an old one.
Cost I imagine. New ones are cheaper to make.

They do seem seriously over engineered with regards to their foundations.
These days street furniture is generally designed to be move forgiving in
the event of an RTA.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the newest ones don’t have an even shallower
“root”.

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The Natural Philosopher
2025-02-04 18:43:46 UTC
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Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
Battery angle grinder!
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Andy Burns
2025-02-04 19:02:32 UTC
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They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath
the letter box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with
no letter box on top of it.
Battery angle grinder!
Portable bandsaw
NY
2025-02-04 20:07:23 UTC
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They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath
the letter box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with
no letter box on top of it.
Battery angle grinder!
Portable bandsaw
Shaped charge of Cemtex ;-)
The Natural Philosopher
2025-02-04 20:48:08 UTC
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They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath
the letter box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with
no letter box on top of it.
Battery angle grinder!
Portable bandsaw
Shaped charge of Cemtex ;-)
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Andrew
2025-02-09 16:39:53 UTC
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Post by Tim Streater
Here, I'm referring to those on the street into which one posts a letter, not
the one on one's front door.
Round here we have had three of them nicked. I knew about one but our village
mag, received today, indicates that there were three of them half-inched. The
one I saw was missing was one of those that perches on top of a pole - the
pole was still there but no letter box.
Do scroats just take them for the scrap value?
I was under the impression they had a significant amount of anchorage
in the ground --- is that wrong?
They just hacksaw (or whatever) through the pole just underneath the letter
box. The one I saw, the pole was still there but with no letter box on top of
it.
Battery angle grinder!
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