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Marland
2025-04-07 08:07:01 UTC
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Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
is collected
fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
they contain a mucky residue.
Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
the legend and symbol
“Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
jar.

GH
Tricky Dicky
2025-04-07 08:17:52 UTC
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Post by Marland
Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
is collected
fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
they contain a mucky residue.
Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
the legend and symbol
“Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
jar.
GH
Might have been referring to the contents
Scott
2025-04-09 17:49:18 UTC
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 08:17:52 -0000 (UTC), Tricky Dicky
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Post by Marland
Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
is collected
fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
they contain a mucky residue.
Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
the legend and symbol
“Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
jar.
GH
Might have been referring to the contents
Could it be a translation problem from German? Could they mean 'Do
not reuse'? I think the bottled water says not to refill the bottles.
RJH
2025-04-10 06:55:58 UTC
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 08:17:52 -0000 (UTC), Tricky Dicky
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Post by Marland
Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
is collected
fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
they contain a mucky residue.
Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
the legend and symbol
“Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
jar.
GH
Might have been referring to the contents
Could it be a translation problem from German? Could they mean 'Do
not reuse'? I think the bottled water says not to refill the bottles.
They don't seem to be very clued up about UK recycling. I've tried asking them
(Lidl) whether their tea bags are compostable* - no answer yet but plenty of
'we'll get back to you'.

* apparently due
https://corporate.lidl.co.uk/media-centre/pressreleases/2023/compostable-tea-bags
but nothing on the box
Tim Streater
2025-04-10 07:52:42 UTC
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Post by Scott
Could it be a translation problem from German? Could they mean 'Do
not reuse'? I think the bottled water says not to refill the bottles.
They don't seem to be very clued up about UK recycling. I've tried asking them
(Lidl) whether their tea bags are compostable* - no answer yet but plenty of
'we'll get back to you'.
* apparently due
https://corporate.lidl.co.uk/media-centre/pressreleases/2023/compostable-tea-bags
but nothing on the box
Is why we continue to use loose tea. We compost all raw vegetable waste here,
but cooked and meat waste (bones, etc) gets handed off to the food
recycling/composting system.
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Jeff Layman
2025-04-07 08:32:39 UTC
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Post by Marland
Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
is collected
fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
they contain a mucky residue.
Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
the legend and symbol
“Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
jar.
No idea. In general, borosilicate glass (Pyrex) cannot be recycled, but
I can't see the jar being made of that as it would be too expensive.
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Tim+
2025-04-07 14:17:43 UTC
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Post by Marland
Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
is collected
fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
they contain a mucky residue.
Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
the legend and symbol
“Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
jar.
GH
Can’t think why they might use Pyrex but I believe that’s not suitable for
recycling.

Tim
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Sam Plusnet
2025-04-07 18:19:51 UTC
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Post by Marland
Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
is collected
fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
they contain a mucky residue.
Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
the legend and symbol
“Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
jar.
Can't help with that, but we have a different recycling problem.

Our LA uses large woven plastic bags for a range of materials, including
a blue one for cardboard.
Over the years our bag started to fall apart due to hard use - so we
asked for, & received, a replacement.
Then it was a question of "What do we do with the old one?"
The obvious answer was to recycle it.
We put it into the appropriate container.
The bin men carefully removed it from the container, and returned it to
us...
Rinse and repeat.
It is apparently impossible to recycle a recycling container.
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NY
2025-04-08 12:59:59 UTC
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Our LA uses large woven plastic bags for a range of materials, including
a blue one for cardboard.
Over the years our bag started to fall apart due to hard use - so we
asked for, & received, a replacement.
Then it was a question of "What do we do with the old one?"
The obvious answer was to recycle it.
We put it into the appropriate container.
The bin men carefully removed it from the container, and returned it to
us...
Rinse and repeat.
It is apparently impossible to recycle a recycling container.
LOL

It is so much easier in our area (East Yorkshire) because *all*
recycling (glass, hard plastic, paper/cardboard, tin cans) goes in a
single (blue) bin and does not have to be kept separate inside the house
and then put into separate bins/bags for roadsider collection.

The only thing that is kept separate is food waste and garden rubbish
which both go in a brown bin. That works in our favour because the food
waste *had* to be collected every fortnight, and now *has* to be
collected every week under a new Government scheme, so the side effect
of that is that we get weekly collections of garden waste all year
round. And we got them all through Covid.

The East Yorkshire scheme gets high levels of recycling (and low levels
of landfill) because it is so easy and is not micro-managed. It should
become the national model for all councils.

I still have to take excess garden waste to the tip at times when we do
a lot of pruning, but even that is under cover: you drive up a ramp to
the first-floor of huge a covered shed and then tip the garden waste,
cardboard, wood, metal etc into separate skips at ground floor level. It
pongs a bit in a hot summer, but at least you never get wet when it's
raining, and you don't have to climb steps to reach the top of each skip.


Where we lived before (North Yorkshire) we had a tatty "plastic-hessian"
bag for cardboard, but it was so small that you had to rip cardboard
boxes into small pieces - you couldn't just rip the edges of the box and
put each side in whole. Cans and bottles were in a plastic crate with an
ill-fitting lid which usually blew off in the wind, allowing the
contents to blow all over the road.


One way to improve recycling further would be to remove the requirement
to wash bottles/cans/foil trays before recycling. When I've finished
with something, it becomes rubbish that I want to get rid of and it is a
real pain to try to find space in the dishwasher for bottles and trays -
or to wash them by hand. Those things tend to go into landfill on the
basis of "too f-ing hard to comply with the rules".
SteveW
2025-04-09 17:12:45 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Our LA uses large woven plastic bags for a range of materials,
including a blue one for cardboard.
Over the years our bag started to fall apart due to hard use - so we
asked for, & received, a replacement.
Then it was a question of "What do we do with the old one?"
The obvious answer was to recycle it.
We put it into the appropriate container.
The bin men carefully removed it from the container, and returned it
to us...
Rinse and repeat.
It is apparently impossible to recycle a recycling container.
LOL
It is so much easier in our area (East Yorkshire) because *all*
recycling (glass, hard plastic, paper/cardboard, tin cans) goes in a
single (blue) bin and does not have to be kept separate inside the house
and then put into separate bins/bags for roadsider collection.
The only thing that is kept separate is food waste and garden rubbish
which both go in a brown bin. That works in our favour because the food
waste *had* to be collected every fortnight, and now *has* to be
collected every week under a new Government scheme, so the side effect
of that is that we get weekly collections of garden waste all year
round. And we got them all through Covid.
Our council will collect the green bin (food waste) every week, but from
June, if we want to carry on putting garden waste in it, we'll have to
pay an extra £50 a year and have a garden waste sticker on the bin.

They tried to introduce this some years ago, but many people decided to
go halves with neighbours or just take it to the tip themselves - with
the result that they got far less money than they expected and they
abandoned the charge.

I shall go back to using my round bin for garden waste and taking it to
the tip when I take other stuff.
Tim Streater
2025-04-09 20:42:02 UTC
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Our council will collect the green bin (food waste) every week, but from
June, if we want to carry on putting garden waste in it, we'll have to
pay an extra £50 a year and have a garden waste sticker on the bin.
They tried to introduce this some years ago, but many people decided to
go halves with neighbours or just take it to the tip themselves - with
the result that they got far less money than they expected and they
abandoned the charge.
I shall go back to using my round bin for garden waste and taking it to
the tip when I take other stuff.
We pay extra for garden waste removal here, and I don't think that's
unreasonable. Neither do I think the opverall service is bad, notwithstanding
what Our Nige may think. We very often don't put any bins out because they are
nowhere near full, so often it's a month between black bin (landfill) or
recycling bins going out.
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SteveW
2025-04-09 21:14:51 UTC
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Post by SteveW
Our council will collect the green bin (food waste) every week, but from
June, if we want to carry on putting garden waste in it, we'll have to
pay an extra £50 a year and have a garden waste sticker on the bin.
They tried to introduce this some years ago, but many people decided to
go halves with neighbours or just take it to the tip themselves - with
the result that they got far less money than they expected and they
abandoned the charge.
I shall go back to using my round bin for garden waste and taking it to
the tip when I take other stuff.
We pay extra for garden waste removal here, and I don't think that's
unreasonable. Neither do I think the opverall service is bad, notwithstanding
what Our Nige may think. We very often don't put any bins out because they are
nowhere near full, so often it's a month between black bin (landfill) or
recycling bins going out.
Here, food waste and garden waste, if you pay for it, is collected
weekly (240l Green bin); non-recyclable waste fortnightly (140l Grey
bin); paper and card monthly (240l Blue bin); bottles, tins and some
other plastics fortnightly (240l Black bin). So over 4 weeks, it goes
Gn/Gy, Gn/Bu, Gn/Gy, Gn/Bk.
Sam Plusnet
2025-04-10 18:48:22 UTC
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Post by SteveW
Our council will collect the green bin (food waste) every week, but from
June, if we want to carry on putting garden waste in it, we'll have to
pay an extra £50 a year and have a garden waste sticker on the bin.
They tried to introduce this some years ago, but many people decided to
go halves with neighbours or just take it to the tip themselves - with
the result that they got far less money than they expected and they
abandoned the charge.
I shall go back to using my round bin for garden waste and taking it to
the tip when I take other stuff.
We pay extra for garden waste removal here, and I don't think that's
unreasonable. Neither do I think the opverall service is bad, notwithstanding
what Our Nige may think. We very often don't put any bins out because they are
nowhere near full, so often it's a month between black bin (landfill) or
recycling bins going out.
I know there is a garden waste collection here but we have never used it.
Everything is either composted, shredded & used as mulch, or split for
firewood.
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Vir Campestris
2025-04-14 16:41:56 UTC
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On 08/04/2025 13:59, NY wrote:
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Post by NY
The only thing that is kept separate is food waste and garden rubbish
which both go in a brown bin. That works in our favour because the food
waste *had* to be collected every fortnight, and now *has* to be
collected every week under a new Government scheme, so the side effect
of that is that we get weekly collections of garden waste all year
round. And we got them all through Covid.
</snip>

Do you have a reference for that new government scheme? I'd love to be
able to wave it at our council, which only does fortnightly collections.

Andy
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Fredxx
2025-04-08 13:25:10 UTC
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Post by Marland
Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
is collected
fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
they contain a mucky residue.
Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
the legend and symbol
“Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
jar.
A EU directive forbade the recycling of jars [1] not intended to be
recycled. Kilner jars intended for reuse are fine.

[1] It is down to the wording and their interpretation. The WI stated,
for a while, that home made jam should not be sold in 'recycled' jars.
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