See over 120 *unique* DIY tips here.....

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tim.....

2008-06-24 22:06:58 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"

Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's

And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

(I gave up at that point)

tim

Stephen Howard

2008-06-24 23:26:23 UTC

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:06:58 +0100, "tim....."

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.
(I gave up at that point)
tim

To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.

Regards,

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Mike Barnes

2008-06-25 06:09:04 UTC

Post by Stephen Howard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:06:58 +0100, "tim....."

Post by tim.....
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.

Simpler answers:

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it

Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.

--
Mike Barnes

Stephen Howard

2008-06-25 12:57:07 UTC

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:09:04 +0100, Mike Barnes

Post by Stephen Howard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:06:58 +0100, "tim....."

Post by tim.....
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it
Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.

That's odd, I thought pencil-chewing was incredibly common - so much
so that it forms a colloquial expression for a difficult problem.

Regards,

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dennis@home

2008-06-25 13:39:34 UTC

Post by Stephen Howard
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:09:04 +0100, Mike Barnes

Post by Stephen Howard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:06:58 +0100, "tim....."

Post by tim.....
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it
Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.

That's odd, I thought pencil-chewing was incredibly common - so much
so that it forms a colloquial expression for a difficult problem.

I think the idea is to stop it rolling off the bench and breaking.
One of those little plastic animals is better.

Mike Barnes

2008-06-25 16:13:29 UTC

Post by Stephen Howard
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:09:04 +0100, Mike Barnes

Post by Stephen Howard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:06:58 +0100, "tim....."

Post by tim.....
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it
Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.

That's odd, I thought pencil-chewing was incredibly common - so much
so that it forms a colloquial expression for a difficult problem.

If you say so... first I've heard of it (the popularity of the habit,
and the colloquial expression, whatever it is).

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geoff

2008-06-25 18:17:47 UTC

Post by Stephen Howard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:06:58 +0100, "tim....."

Post by tim.....
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it
Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.

He could be getting mixed up with the way that some people coil solder
around a pencil and then feed the end through the middle

--
geoff

Bob Eager

2008-06-24 22:35:24 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

Why would you want to boggle a mine? :-)

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B***@hotmail.co.uk

2008-06-24 22:56:28 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.
(I gave up at that point)
tim
- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

"mine" not mind? Very DIY U R!!

Go away please!
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Dave Plowman (News)

2008-06-24 23:05:48 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the
end of a pencil.
(I gave up at that point)

You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

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B***@hotmail.co.uk

2008-06-24 23:17:10 UTC

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html

What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the
end of a pencil.
(I gave up at that point)

You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...
--
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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Clever? You think?

Hang around you will I'm sure.

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B***@hotmail.co.uk

2008-06-24 23:31:06 UTC

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the
end of a pencil.
(I gave up at that point)

An example, ever tried dry-wall screws? Does it not LOOK like a cross
from above once home??

AND if you drilled off the cross - would it be impossible to remove?

Hence, cheap security (screw)?

You can go away also!

A gift link it was?
http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html

"nightjar" .me.uk>

2008-06-25 07:35:51 UTC

<***@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:2c996527-f537-4d7a-a325-***@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 25, 12:05 am, "Dave Plowman (News)" <***@davenoise.co.uk>
wrote:
...

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

...

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
AND if you drilled off the cross - would it be impossible to remove?
Hence, cheap security (screw)?..

The point being made is that many modern screws are made from hardened
steel, which will destroy the drill tip first.

Colin Bignell.

Dave Plowman (News)

2008-06-25 09:40:54 UTC

Post by "nightjar" .me.uk>
...

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

...

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
AND if you drilled off the cross - would it be impossible to remove?
Hence, cheap security (screw)?..

The point being made is that many modern screws are made from hardened
steel, which will destroy the drill tip first.

Indeed. Should have been obvious to lack of brains if he'd ever tried any
of his 'tips'.

Post by "nightjar" .me.uk>
Colin Bignell.

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The Wanderer

2008-06-25 11:20:47 UTC

Post by "nightjar" .me.uk>
...

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

...

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
AND if you drilled off the cross - would it be impossible to remove?
Hence, cheap security (screw)?..

The point being made is that many modern screws are made from hardened
steel, which will destroy the drill tip first.

Funny you should say that, I was mounting a hose reel a couple of days ago,
screws supplied. Th'only problem was they seemed to be made of an aluminium
alloy. Quickly replaced with decent screws once one of them started to turn
out.......

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The Wanderer

2008-06-25 06:23:34 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.
(I gave up at that point)

Well, the one thing that 'BrainsHere' can be certain about is that he won't
ever be taken seriously. He can also be pretty certain that he'll quickly
finish up in quite a few KFs.

--
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m***@care2.com

2008-06-24 22:08:15 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!

NT

B***@hotmail.co.uk

2008-06-24 23:05:10 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html

Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!
NT

I NOW live here, you lot post crap!

And I can eat you all (RE: DIY).

No problem!

A gift link it was?
http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html

I feel you want more, comming up (as dick breath would
wright).............

jake

2008-06-24 23:42:22 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!
NT

I NOW live here, you lot post crap!
And I can eat you all (RE: DIY).

Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.

B***@hotmail.co.uk

2008-06-24 23:52:45 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!
NT

I NOW live here, you lot post crap!
And I can eat you all (RE: DIY).

Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.

Then wy drill? However......

Please let:-

Dave Plowman (News)

Know?
Ta.

http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html
Cheers.

B***@hotmail.co.uk

2008-06-25 00:01:28 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html

Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!
NT

I NOW live here, you lot post crap!
And I can eat you all (RE: DIY).

Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.

If you wish to remove a screw 'with no head', what you do?

I of course know, and for you lot to work out and probably tell the
World (nice one)? GOOD move I say!

http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html

m***@care2.com

2008-06-25 03:11:44 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html

Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!
NT

I NOW live here, you lot post crap!
And I can eat you all (RE: DIY).

Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.

If you wish to remove a screw 'with no head', what you do?
I of course know, and for you lot to work out and probably tell the
World (nice one)? GOOD move I say!
http://www.justservices.com/open/i/p1.html

Here's our take on it:
http://www.wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Screws#Removing_a_Damaged_Screw

NT

m***@care2.com

2008-06-25 04:03:49 UTC

Pencil Saver
Wrap a piece of soldering wire around the un-sharpened end

whats that meant to do?

Divide Any Flat Material Into Equal Amounts
Turn rule at an angle across stock and tick off where required

what do you mean?

NT

John Rumm

2008-06-25 08:42:15 UTC

Divide Any Flat Material Into Equal Amounts
Turn rule at an angle across stock and tick off where required

what do you mean?

Its actually quite a useful technique, but you would be forgiven for not
understanding what was meant from the rather cryptic explanation given
there.

Say you want to divide a 10" board into three equal segments. Rather
than work out 10/3 and then mark off 3.3" sections, you pick some nice
round number points on your tape - say 4, 8, & 12". Now measure
diagonally across the board such that the start of the tape is on one
edge, and the 12" point is on the other edge. Your 4" and 8" markings
will now be indicating the exact thirds points.

In technical terms you are simply marking points on the hypotenuse
rather than the straight across line, the points will be in the same
position across the board, but you get to choose the length of the
hypotenuse by varying the angle, and hence can pick easy to divide numbers.
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m***@care2.com

2008-06-25 18:15:24 UTC

Post by John Rumm

Divide Any Flat Material Into Equal Amounts
Turn rule at an angle across stock and tick off where required

what do you mean?

Its actually quite a useful technique, but you would be forgiven for not
understanding what was meant from the rather cryptic explanation given
there.
Say you want to divide a 10" board into three equal segments. Rather
than work out 10/3 and then mark off 3.3" sections, you pick some nice
round number points on your tape - say 4, 8, & 12". Now measure
diagonally across the board such that the start of the tape is on one
edge, and the 12" point is on the other edge. Your 4" and 8" markings
will now be indicating the exact thirds points.
In technical terms you are simply marking points on the hypotenuse
rather than the straight across line, the points will be in the same
position across the board, but you get to choose the length of the
hypotenuse by varying the angle, and hence can pick easy to divide numbers.

Ahh ty - neat idea.

I thought the suggestion to sew through emery board an especially bad
one. Not only would it shag the needle it would also soon shag the
machine.

Brain shere did have some good ideas among that lot, and if s/he gets
a bit more realistic could be a valuable contributor.

NT

Chris J Dixon

2008-06-26 07:42:07 UTC

Post by m***@care2.com
Brain shere did have some good ideas among that lot, and if s/he gets
a bit more realistic could be a valuable contributor.

But was the list home grown, or simply a list they happened
across somewhere?

Chris

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Dave Plowman (News)

2008-06-26 09:08:43 UTC

Post by m***@care2.com
Brain shere did have some good ideas among that lot, and if s/he gets
a bit more realistic could be a valuable contributor.

But was the list home grown, or simply a list they happened
across somewhere?

They're certainly not all original thought as I've read several elsewhere.
The quality of the prose and grammar suggests not just cut and paste
though. ;-)

Post by Chris J Dixon
Chris

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John Rumm

2008-06-26 09:36:15 UTC

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by m***@care2.com
Brain shere did have some good ideas among that lot, and if s/he gets
a bit more realistic could be a valuable contributor.

But was the list home grown, or simply a list they happened
across somewhere?

They're certainly not all original thought as I've read several elsewhere.
The quality of the prose and grammar suggests not just cut and paste
though. ;-)

Indeed. See here:

http://gmrowland.com/general-diy-tips.htm

Seems to be TMH ain't the only one to get people ripping off his web
site ;-)
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John Rumm

2008-06-26 09:32:28 UTC

Post by m***@care2.com
Brain shere did have some good ideas among that lot, and if s/he gets
a bit more realistic could be a valuable contributor.

But was the list home grown, or simply a list they happened
across somewhere?

I expect it was a collection of "stuff" to improve the search rankings
of his web site. He spammed it out to a few unrelated groups the other day.

Characteristically they usually hit and run after making some noise.
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Geo

2008-06-27 15:33:38 UTC

Post by John Rumm
I expect it was a collection of "stuff" to improve the search rankings
of his web site. He spammed it out to a few unrelated groups the other day.
Characteristically they usually hit and run after making some noise.

He has just appeared in uk.rec.gardening with the same crap.

Geo

"nightjar" .me.uk>

2008-06-26 20:57:04 UTC

Post by m***@care2.com
Brain shere did have some good ideas among that lot, and if s/he gets
a bit more realistic could be a valuable contributor.

But was the list home grown, or simply a list they happened
across somewhere?

I read 'as featured in Prima magazine (October 2003)' as meaning that was
the source, rather than being an accolade for the site. The tips certainly
have the feel of things submitted by magazine readers.

Colin Bignell

John Stumbles

2008-06-27 18:46:32 UTC

Post by "nightjar" .me.uk>
I read 'as featured in Prima magazine (October 2003)' as meaning that
was the source, rather than being an accolade for the site. The tips
certainly have the feel of things submitted by magazine readers.

You'd have hoped a magazine might have a proof reader though?

--
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Extreme moderate

tim.....

2008-06-25 17:43:58 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!
NT

I NOW live here, you lot post crap!
And I can eat you all (RE: DIY).

Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.

If you wish to remove a screw 'with no head', what you do?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

drill out the rest of the head

Dave Plowman (News)

2008-06-25 18:22:43 UTC

Post by jake
Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.

If you wish to remove a screw 'with no head', what you do?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
drill out the rest of the head

Yes. The idea of making a security screw by drilling out the cross head is
stupid. All a thief needs to do is carry on drilling and remove the lock
etc. Proper security screws are hardened to prevent drilling.

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Mike Dodd

2008-06-26 07:34:08 UTC

Post by B***@hotmail.co.uk
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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!
NT

Possibly because some of us have more than half a brain.

Anyone else shocked at some of the potentially dangerous suggestions...
(G-cramps instead of spanner, using an incorrectly sized spanner and a
coin shim, using an inappropriate sole-plate from an iron as an anvil,
scraper fashioned from a bulldog clip and a razor blade)

Maybe these are all ideas that we would consider in the safety and
privacy of our own homes, but to publish these (in that last bastion of
DIY literature, "Primacy magazine", no less) is asking for trouble.

Most of the other ideas are either plain daft, too specific, too obvious
or impracticable.

Hopefully Brainshere will get bored and bugger off elsewhere. Or read
the more useful and intelligent information generally on uk.d-i-y and
get a clue.

Mike Dodd

2008-06-26 07:40:31 UTC

Post by Mike Dodd
DIY literature, "Primacy magazine", no less) is asking for trouble.

*"Prima"... my bad... spent all morning looking for tyres (Michelin),
hence brain-fade.

YAPH

2008-06-25 12:20:30 UTC