Beeping airfryer

Post by Jethro_uk
Have a 2 year old 2-tray Lakeland airfryer. Nary a problem.
However yesterday when cooking a couple of things (burgers & chips) for
30 minutes it started beeping and flashing a couple of preset icons.
removing trays, and power cycling did seem to briefly stop this. But then
it started again.
It didn't seem to stop the cooking (looking at the smart meter which
happens to be on the same counter).
Is this anything anyone has experienced ?
It does seem to have some sort of memory, so I've had it unplugged since
then.

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters that
might be blocked?

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Adrian Caspersz

2025-01-05 21:33:56 UTC

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters that
might be blocked?

Any idea why these things have very complicated user interfaces, similar
to a video recorder remote control of the 90s?

Simply two controls, one rotary for temperature, one rotary for time,
and start and stop buttons should be sufficient.

But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt
on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what
heating profile?

It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....

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Graham.

2025-01-05 23:24:58 UTC

Any idea why these things have very complicated user interfaces, similar to a video recorder remote control of the 90s?Simply two controls, one rotary for temperature, one rotary for time, and start and stop buttons should be sufficient.But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what heating profile?It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....-- Adrian C

Actually Tower sell a clockwork model alongside the digital one.

You and I have correctly identified the various settings as simply
default starting points for time and temperature, however, their
target audience see these as actual modes, where some internal
magic differentiates (say) airfry from bake.

It's largely true of washing machines, if I designed one for
myself, its programmer would refer to the rinse time and
agitation level rather than cotton and silk.

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alan_m

2025-01-07 08:48:57 UTC

Post by Graham.

Any idea why these things have very complicated user interfaces, similar to a video recorder remote control of the 90s?Simply two controls, one rotary for temperature, one rotary for time, and start and stop buttons should be sufficient.But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what heating profile?It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....-- Adrian C

Actually Tower sell a clockwork model alongside the digital one.

Bigclive takes apart a clockwork airfryer

Currently on sale in Asda for £20 (Compact Air Fryer 1.5 Litre)

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Chris Green

2025-01-06 09:52:53 UTC

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters that
might be blocked?

Any idea why these things have very complicated user interfaces, similar
to a video recorder remote control of the 90s?
Simply two controls, one rotary for temperature, one rotary for time,
and start and stop buttons should be sufficient.
But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt
on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what
heating profile?
It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....

Yes, I agree absolutely! Microwaves suffer from the same stupidity.

We have an air fryer that has a 'manual' setting which approximates to
sanity. Wierdly all the other 'bread', 'meat', 'chips' etc. are
actually just the same as the 'manual' setting, the only difference
between them is that they start at different times and temperatures.

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Chris Hogg

2025-01-06 15:48:39 UTC

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters that
might be blocked?

Any idea why these things have very complicated user interfaces, similar
to a video recorder remote control of the 90s?
Simply two controls, one rotary for temperature, one rotary for time,
and start and stop buttons should be sufficient.
But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt
on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what
heating profile?
It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....

Yes, I agree absolutely! Microwaves suffer from the same stupidity.

As do many appliances, e.g dishwashers and washing machines. They
cater for the gullible idiots of this world, who think it's necessary
to wash dishes for three hours or denims separately from cottons. I
use a single programme (time/temp/rinses) for almost all clothes, and
a short wash for dishes. Following the mfrs suggestions must either
mean you use a lot of electricity, or you have a lot of clothes or
dishes so that you can save up the 'dirties' until you have a full
load.

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Chris

RJH

2025-01-06 16:57:18 UTC

Post by Chris Hogg

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters that
might be blocked?

Any idea why these things have very complicated user interfaces, similar
to a video recorder remote control of the 90s?
Simply two controls, one rotary for temperature, one rotary for time,
and start and stop buttons should be sufficient.
But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt
on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what
heating profile?
It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....

Yes, I agree absolutely! Microwaves suffer from the same stupidity.

To a point. While air fryers are probably too complicated for what they're
trying to do, things like washing machines and dishwashers tend to have some
decent reasoning behind their many options. For example:

I find that to get a quicker wash for cottons on the washing machine requires
something like 'mixed load'. Which uses far too little water for cottons, and
spins at a lower speed than I'd like. it also baffles the programmer, which
keeps adjusting and extending the programme as (I suspect) it's expecting a
lighter load after a rinse. So 'Cottons' it is for (mainly) cottons.

And as a matter of fact, the eco setting on my Bosch dishwasher does take over
4 hours, but uses about 1/3 of the water and electricity (0.85kW/h) of the
'auto' wash.

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David Wade

2025-01-06 17:13:56 UTC

Post by Chris Hogg

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters that
might be blocked?

Any idea why these things have very complicated user interfaces, similar
to a video recorder remote control of the 90s?
Simply two controls, one rotary for temperature, one rotary for time,
and start and stop buttons should be sufficient.
But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt
on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what
heating profile?
It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....

Yes, I agree absolutely! Microwaves suffer from the same stupidity.

I thought that, until I measured the power my dishwasher used on short
wash, and an eco wash which takes about three hours...
... the ECO wash uses about half the electricity of a 1 hour wash, as
measured at the socket by a smart plug. The smart plug measures real
power not VA so I believe its accurate...

Dave

charles

2025-01-06 19:00:02 UTC

Post by David Wade

Post by Jethro_uk
Have a 2 year old 2-tray Lakeland airfryer. Nary a problem.
However yesterday when cooking a couple of things (burgers & chips)
for 30 minutes it started beeping and flashing a couple of preset
icons.
removing trays, and power cycling did seem to briefly stop this.
But then it started again.
It didn't seem to stop the cooking (looking at the smart meter
which happens to be on the same counter).
Is this anything anyone has experienced ?
It does seem to have some sort of memory, so I've had it unplugged
since then.

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters
that might be blocked?

Any idea why these things have very complicated user interfaces,
similar to a video recorder remote control of the 90s?
Simply two controls, one rotary for temperature, one rotary for time,
and start and stop buttons should be sufficient.
But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major
doubt on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in,
with what heating profile?
It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some
modifications....

Yes, I agree absolutely! Microwaves suffer from the same stupidity.

As do many appliances, e.g dishwashers and washing machines. They cater
for the gullible idiots of this world, who think it's necessary to wash
dishes for three hours or denims separately from cottons. I use a
single programme (time/temp/rinses) for almost all clothes, and a short
wash for dishes. Following the mfrs suggestions must either mean you
use a lot of electricity, or you have a lot of clothes or dishes so
that you can save up the 'dirties' until you have a full load.

I thought that, until I measured the power my dishwasher used on short
wash, and an eco wash which takes about three hours... ... the ECO wash
uses about half the electricity of a 1 hour wash, as measured at the
socket by a smart plug. The smart plug measures real power not VA so I
believe its accurate...

We tend to run ours in the 00.30 - 05.30 slot where Octopus charge us a lot
less per unit, too.

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Roland Perry

2025-01-07 06:08:54 UTC

Post by David Wade
I thought that, until I measured the power my dishwasher used on short
wash, and an eco wash which takes about three hours... ... the ECO wash
uses about half the electricity of a 1 hour wash, as measured at the
socket by a smart plug. The smart plug measures real power not VA so I
believe its accurate...

We tend to run ours in the 00.30 - 05.30 slot where Octopus charge us a lot
less per unit, too.

I'd like to do that, but they refuse to fix my smart meter, so I can't
use any fancy tariffs. Bastards.

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Roland Perry

Tim+

2025-01-07 11:35:01 UTC

We tend to run ours in the 00.30 - 05.30 slot where Octopus charge us a lot
less per unit, too.

I'd like to do that, but they refuse to fix my smart meter, so I can't
use any fancy tariffs. Bastards.

Refuse?

How hard have your pursued this? Octopus are very keen on smart meters but
are limited by the crappy tech. I’m currently awaiting a visit from the
DCC (instigated by Octopus) to find out why my smart meter doesn’t work.

Tim

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Roland Perry

2025-01-07 19:10:27 UTC

In message

Post by Tim+

We tend to run ours in the 00.30 - 05.30 slot where Octopus charge us a lot
less per unit, too.

I'd like to do that, but they refuse to fix my smart meter, so I can't
use any fancy tariffs. Bastards.

Refuse?
How hard have your pursued this?

I'm going to ramp this up. I've put in numerous requests for them to
come fix the meter, although they might do better to replace with a more
modern one. Usually they say "you've already asked us this, go away".
One time I did get as far as an appointment page, but there were no
slots available at all.

Post by Tim+
Octopus are very keen on smart meters but
are limited by the crappy tech. I’m currently awaiting a visit from the
DCC (instigated by Octopus) to find out why my smart meter doesn’t work.
Tim

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Roland Perry

Tim+

2025-01-07 19:24:25 UTC

Post by Roland Perry
In message

Post by Tim+

We tend to run ours in the 00.30 - 05.30 slot where Octopus charge us a lot
less per unit, too.

I'd like to do that, but they refuse to fix my smart meter, so I can't
use any fancy tariffs. Bastards.

Refuse?
How hard have your pursued this?

Definitely persevere. Polite persistence via “X” is the key. I’m on my 4th
meter now but have always had a pretty cordial relationship with Octopus
and they actually phoned me tonight half an hour after I emailed them to
explain that they could get another engineer/fitter out to me this Friday
to see if he can either get my meter communicating or replace it with a
cellular data one. (I’m in Scotland).

Tim

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Fredxx

2025-01-07 23:53:52 UTC

We tend to run ours in the 00.30 - 05.30 slot where Octopus charge us a lot
less per unit, too.

I'd like to do that, but they refuse to fix my smart meter, so I can't
use any fancy tariffs. Bastards.

Perhaps you should ask on your personal chat forum ulm if you can sue
for damages from a non-working smart meter?

David Wade

2025-01-06 10:25:28 UTC

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters
that might be blocked?

Because rotary controls go wrong in the heat?

Post by Adrian Caspersz
But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt
on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what
heating profile?

I have one from Lidl. It has four "buttons" well really touch sensitive
points.

* "Up", "Down"
* "Time/Temp" -> so you can set either with the up& down
"start/pause"

plus a large display approximately 2" tall. Only issue is display only
shows time or temp, but does alternate between the two without needing
to press the toggle button.

Post by Adrian Caspersz
It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....

Na. Probably jusy one chip...

Dave

The Natural Philosopher

2025-01-06 12:06:21 UTC

Post by David Wade

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters
that might be blocked?

Because rotary controls go wrong in the heat?

Post by Adrian Caspersz
But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major
doubt on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in,
with what heating profile?

I have one from Lidl. It has four "buttons" well really touch sensitive
points.
* "Up", "Down"
* "Time/Temp" -> so you can set either with the up& down
"start/pause"
plus a large display approximately 2" tall. Only issue is display only
shows time or temp, but does alternate between the two without needing
to press the toggle button.

Post by Adrian Caspersz
It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....

Na. Probably jusy one chip...

and 60.000 lines of code

Post by David Wade
Dave

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Peter Able

2025-01-06 10:40:38 UTC

I have no experience with air fryers, but does it have any filters
that might be blocked?

On the simplest oven there is no need for start and stop buttons.
pushing the basket into the the oven or pulling it out provides a
start/stop function.

Post by Adrian Caspersz
But this Tower thing majors on 20 different icons and places major doubt
on what preset is really suitable for what we are putting in, with what
heating profile?
It's real tempting to take this to bits and make some modifications....

A perfect case of "Keep It Simple, Stupid". I purchased a totally
mechanical, electrical oven for £20 from Asda/George. It didn't work
properly and was replaced with the £27 electronic / bells-and-whistled
version. That definitely didn't work.

I've still got both - I worked out that the simple oven only stopped
when asked to cook for 4 minutes or less. I've been using it on that
basis ever since. The "electronic" oven is fixed but is just gathering
dust.

The KISS principle in action.

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Brian

2025-01-06 07:45:23 UTC