Freezer sprays?

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays
and pipe freezer sprays?

[GB]

Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays and
pipe freezer sprays?

Quantity, for sure. Medical freezer sprays are designed to cool the
area, so you don't feel pain, not to deep freeze it.

[tim...]

Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays and
pipe freezer sprays?

Quantity, for sure. Medical freezer sprays are designed to cool the area,
so you don't feel pain, not to deep freeze it.

well the medical freezer spray sprayed on me certainly was not designed to
avoid pain

anything but!

[alan_m]

Post by tim...

Post by GB

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays
and pipe freezer sprays?

Quantity, for sure. Medical freezer sprays are designed to cool the
area, so you don't feel pain, not to deep freeze it.

well the medical freezer spray sprayed on me certainly was not designed
to avoid pain
anything but!

One thing you should avoid is spraying the contents of any can of
electrical/plumbing freezer spray directly on to your skin. These cans
are designed to take a fairly large area/volume down to below the
freezing point of water/blood rapidly.

Use an intermediate method such as freezing the end of a cotton bud and
then applying that to a small area to be treated.

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Post by alan_m
One thing you should avoid is spraying the contents of any can of
electrical/plumbing freezer spray directly on to your skin. These cans are
designed to take a fairly large area/volume down to below the freezing point
of water/blood rapidly.
Use an intermediate method such as freezing the end of a cotton bud and then
applying that to a small area to be treated.

That is what I did.

[PeterC]

Post by tim...

Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays and
pipe freezer sprays?

Quantity, for sure. Medical freezer sprays are designed to cool the area,
so you don't feel pain, not to deep freeze it.

well the medical freezer spray sprayed on me certainly was not designed to
avoid pain
anything but!

I've had it my bottom lip - that's a sensitive area. Even a local in the lip
really needs a local!

[michael adams]

Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays and pipe freezer
sprays?

Interesting.

There are two types of medical freezer spray those based dimethyl ether[4] or
tetrafluoroethane, which kill tissue and are used to remove warts and those
based on Chloroethane which is used as a subsititute for an ice-pack on
injuries

While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

So certainly useful to know if you either want to remove warts yourself,
or freeze pipes.

Only don't use either as an ice-pack.




michael adams

...

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)

It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

[Tim Lamb]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

That's taking d-i-y to your extremities:-)

[Owain Lastname]

Post by Tim Lamb

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago.

That's taking d-i-y to your extremities:-)

On Dr Pimple Popper a few weeks ago someone had removed his own lipoma.

I'm surprised we haven't had more questions about diy dentistry this year.

Owain

[Tim+]

Post by Owain Lastname

Post by Tim Lamb

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago.

That's taking d-i-y to your extremities:-)

On Dr Pimple Popper a few weeks ago someone had removed his own lipoma.
I'm surprised we haven't had more questions about diy dentistry this year.

Fortunately NHS dentistry has resumed (in Scotland). Had a root canal done
(privately) this week as they can use composite filling material then
(which is apparently much superior for dodgy teeth).

Funny how months of social deprivation can make a visit to the dentist for
a root canal treatment feel like a nice day out. ;-)

Tim

[Andy Burns]

Post by Owain Lastname
I'm surprised we haven't had more questions about diy dentistry this year.

My dentist seems to be up and running again, a cancelled appointment for
an extraction from March is now re-booked for next week.

[No Name]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Owain Lastname
I'm surprised we haven't had more questions about diy dentistry this year.

My dentist seems to be up and running again, a cancelled appointment for
an extraction from March is now re-booked for next week.

how much money is he/she extracting from your wallet this time?

[Andy Burns]

Post by No Name

Post by Andy Burns
My dentist seems to be up and running again, a cancelled appointment
for an extraction from March is now re-booked for next week.

how much money is he/she extracting from your wallet this time?

Having heard various BUPA Dental adverts on the radio where the
speakingveryfastandmumbledtermsandconditions mention an extra covid19
safety fee, I was expecting a price hike.

They said they'd like payment in advance over the phone, so I agreed to
that, the scribbled sheet I had from earlier in the year quoted £62 but
they've just taken £39.

[Andy Burns]

quoted £62 but they've just taken £39.

seems like that's the standard band2 fee of £62.10 minus the band1
examination fee of £22.70 from about this time last year when it was
decided it ought to come out "but not urgently"

[Max Demian]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Owain Lastname
I'm surprised we haven't had more questions about diy dentistry this year.

My dentist seems to be up and running again, a cancelled appointment for
an extraction from March is now re-booked for next week.

The website for mine still says, "Please do not attempt to contact the
practice to make an appointment or request a start date," since June.
How will the dentists afford their fancy houses and cars? I don't think
they get a capitation fee like GPs. (My GP just inundates me with random
texts about vaccinations and blood pressure checks, often not
identifying who they are or what they are offering.)

[Andy Burns]

Post by Max Demian

Post by Andy Burns
My dentist seems to be up and running again, a cancelled appointment
for an extraction from March is now re-booked for next week.

The website for mine still says, "Please do not attempt to contact the
practice to make an appointment or request a start date,"

Fairly efficient, arrive, stay in car, they phone you when they want you
into the building, temperature scan, alcohol gel, belongings in a box,
straight into treatment room, alcohol gel, leave by the back door, not
yet re-booking for regular check-ups, just waiting for the damned
injection to wear off.

[Max Demian]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Max Demian

Post by Andy Burns
My dentist seems to be up and running again, a cancelled appointment
for an extraction from March is now re-booked for next week.

The website for mine still says, "Please do not attempt to contact the
practice to make an appointment or request a start date,"

Fairly efficient, arrive, stay in car, they phone you when they want you
into the building, temperature scan, alcohol gel, belongings in a box,
straight into treatment room, alcohol gel, leave by the back door, not
yet re-booking for regular check-ups, just waiting for the damned
injection to wear off.

Is that emergencies only? NHS? Private? Do they charge extra?

[Andy Burns]

Post by Max Demian
Is that emergencies only? NHS? Private? Do they charge extra?

NHS, so far they're only restarting cancelled work from pre lockdown1,
no extra charge. I've got to wait again for some private work, or even
a checkup.

[michael adams]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an old wart
removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had leaked out. That got me
wondering about pipe freezer, which I already had in stock.

That is only the Wickes pipe freezer though. Maybe other pipe freezers are
different and stronger so maybe best to check the specs on the makers
website first.

The medical spray information was on this Wiki page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeze_spray



michael adams

...

[n***@aolbin.com]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

A sharp scalpel blade is easier - heat it first if you don't know where
it's been

[Dave Liquorice]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and
dimethyl ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago.

If it's small, couple of mm or less, nip it off between your finger
nails.

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
I managed to find an old wart removal kit,

Had a wart a while back, looked at the proprietary home freezer kits
and thought they are a lot of money for a tiny freezer spray and
couple of cotton buds. Successfully dealt with wart in one
"treatment" using an Air Duster (diflouroethane it says) and a cotton
bud well soaked in the fluid and half a dozen or so applications to
freeze the entire wart.

[williamwright]

Post by Dave Liquorice

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago.

If it's small, couple of mm or less, nip it off between your finger
nails.

Put some potted meat on it and let a puppy nibble it off.

Bill

[Andy Burns]

Post by Dave Liquorice

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and
dimethyl ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago.

If it's small, couple of mm or less, nip it off between your finger
nails.

practice your surgical knots

[Bob Eager]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and
dimethyl ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

One thing my GP did was to tie a thin piece of thread tightly round it.
It dropped off after a couple of days.

My GP surgery is the one for university staff and students. Years ago,
they had a different approach. You were handed a small Dewar flask and
sent to the chemistry building for some liquid nitrogen. On your return,
this was applied with a cotton bud.

[Mathew Newton]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

Are you going to swap your stop cock over whilst you're at it? ;-)

[williamwright]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

Are you going to swap your stop cock over whilst you're at it?;-)

God no! Don't let anywhere near your cock!

Bill

[Owain Lastname]

Post by williamwright

Are you going to swap your stop cock over whilst you're at it?;-)

God no! Don't let anywhere near your cock!

Would you call a plumber or NHS in the event of an accident?


Owain

[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

The way an old doctor removed warts from people was to tie a tight bit of
catgut around the base and in a few days they fell off.
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Post by Owain Lastname

Post by williamwright

Are you going to swap your stop cock over whilst you're at it?;-)

God no! Don't let anywhere near your cock!

Would you call a plumber or NHS in the event of an accident?
Owain

[PeterC]

Post by williamwright

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

Are you going to swap your stop cock over whilst you're at it?;-)

God no! Don't let anywhere near your cock!
Bill

In breaking news...

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Post by Mathew Newton
Are you going to swap your stop cock over whilst you're at it? ;-)

I don't need to swap it, I swapped it 40 years ago and operate it every
12 months to be sure its free. It also has an isolation valve just
after it, then the meter, then a second isolation valve - so plenty of
choice to turn the water off.

[fred]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

ime those skin tags fall off themselves evenyually

[Max Demian]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

Tie a cotton thread around the base and it should drop off. (Never done it.)

[Bob Eager]

Post by Max Demian

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and
dimethyl ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

Tie a cotton thread around the base and it should drop off. (Never done it.)

As I noted upthread, this does work. GP did it for me.

[PeterC]

Post by Bob Eager

Post by Max Demian

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and
dimethyl ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

Tie a cotton thread around the base and it should drop off. (Never done it.)

As I noted upthread, this does work. GP did it for me.

I'm tempted by this method but for one thing: I need the procedure to leave
no protrusion at all, otherwise it'll be prone to catching on my shirt and
could be worse than the tag. I know, AG!

[Tim+]

Post by PeterC

Post by Bob Eager

Post by Max Demian

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and
dimethyl ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

Tie a cotton thread around the base and it should drop off. (Never done it.)

As I noted upthread, this does work. GP did it for me.

I'm tempted by this method but for one thing: I need the procedure to leave
no protrusion at all, otherwise it'll be prone to catching on my shirt and
could be worse than the tag. I know, AG!

I doubt very much that you would be left with a “stalk” unless your tag has
a particularly long “neck” and you don’t tie the knot close to the skin.
Certainly never heard of it happening or seen a stalk.

Even if in the unlikely event that you did have one, dabbing the stalk with
freezing agent would kill it off.

Tim

[alan_m]

Post by Tim+
Even if in the unlikely event that you did have one, dabbing the stalk with
freezing agent would kill it off.

All the methods suggested are to kill the blood supply to the tag.
I used the freezer method repeatedly dabbling the tag(s) with the frozen
cotton bud until I felt the tag go really solid and then a few more dabs
with the cotton bud for good luck. Quickly refresh the cotton bud with
more freezer for each application. The tag(s) fell off within a week
leaving a (2mm) little scab which healed within the week. No bumps were
left after treatment.

[n***@aolbin.com]

Post by PeterC

Post by Bob Eager

Post by Max Demian

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and
dimethyl ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Thanks and 'that'll do' :-)
It's a skin tag which appeared around a month ago. I managed to find an
old wart removal kit, with the sponge sticks, but the freezer spray had
leaked out. That got me wondering about pipe freezer, which I already
had in stock.

Tie a cotton thread around the base and it should drop off. (Never done it.)

As I noted upthread, this does work. GP did it for me.

I'm tempted by this method but for one thing: I need the procedure to leave
no protrusion at all, otherwise it'll be prone to catching on my shirt and
could be worse than the tag. I know, AG!

Why not just use a scalpel, as I suggested earlier? I do this and it's
quick, fairly painless, and bleeding isn't a problem (I take
Clopidogrel). Put a small circular plaster over the site for a day or
so, with some Savlon on it.

[Andy Burns]

Post by Bob Eager

Post by Max Demian
Tie a cotton thread around the base and it should drop off. (Never done it.)

As I noted upthread, this does work. GP did it for me.

My GP did a couple of mine, surgical thread rather than cotton and the
knots were "stingingly" tight, AIRI he wasn't just pulling a couple of
inches of thread with his fingers, but a couple of feet with his arms.

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Arctic Spray2 which suggests it is 1,1,1,2-TETRAFLUOROETHANE

[michael adams]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Arctic Spray2 which suggests it is 1,1,1,2-TETRAFLUOROETHANE

I'm covered anyway, as you've no way of tracking me down if it
all goes wrong.


michael adams

...

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Post by michael adams

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Arctic Spray2 which suggests it is 1,1,1,2-TETRAFLUOROETHANE

I'm covered anyway, as you've no way of tracking me down if it
all goes wrong.

What you mean my skin tag dropping off :-)

The dimethyl ether seems to be just a propellant.

[michael adams]

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams

Post by Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.

Arctic Spray2 which suggests it is 1,1,1,2-TETRAFLUOROETHANE

I'm covered anyway, as you've no way of tracking me down if it
all goes wrong.

What you mean my skin tag dropping off :-)

I was more concerned with the possibility of the skin tag surviving,
and the rest of you dropping off.


michael adams

...

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Post by michael adams
I was more concerned with the possibility of the skin tag surviving,
and the rest of you dropping off.

Did it yesterday evening - good soak of a 'sponge bud' from the freezer
spray, held bud down for 10 seconds, then bud down onto the tag.

I had cut it off several times before, but it was regrowing quite
rapidly - hence wondering about trying freezer spray. After the freezer
spray yesterday, it now appears to be shrinking, certainly not
regrowing.

[williamwright]

Post by michael adams
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.
So certainly useful to know if you either want to remove warts yourself,
or freeze pipes.
Only don't use either as an ice-pack.

And definitely don't use a deep heat product to ease anal pain...

Bill

[Owain Lastname]

Post by williamwright
And definitely don't use a deep heat product to ease anal pain...

And when Voltarol mention the joy of movement they don't mean relief from constipation.

Owain

[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

No frostbite, I was only trying to see if a resistor drifted, doctor...
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Post by michael adams

Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays and pipe freezer
sprays?

Interesting.
There are two types of medical freezer spray those based dimethyl ether[4] or
tetrafluoroethane, which kill tissue and are used to remove warts and those
based on Chloroethane which is used as a subsititute for an ice-pack on
injuries
While Wickes pipe freezer is also based on tetrafluoroethane and dimethyl
ether same as the wart kiling medical spray.
So certainly useful to know if you either want to remove warts yourself,
or freeze pipes.
Only don't use either as an ice-pack.
michael adams
...

[alan_m]

Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays and
pipe freezer sprays?

It may depend on what you want to do with it and the method of application.

I have successfully removed skin tags with freezer spray BUT NOT by
squirting it on my skin.

I have dribbled the freezer liquid from the can on to a cotton bud, let
the cotton bud freeze and then repeatedly applied the cotton bud to the
skin tag so it freezes solid. The (electrical) freezer can came with a
straw and by very gently pressing the spray top the freezer doesn't
rapidly come out - instead drops of the liquid appear at the straw
output. This is used to soak the cotton bud and then as the liquid
evaporates the cotton bud rapidly freezes. This is when it is applied to
the skin tag.

The completely frozen skin tag will take a week or so to fall off.

[PeterC]

Post by alan_m

Anyone know - is there any difference between medical freezer sprays and
pipe freezer sprays?

It may depend on what you want to do with it and the method of application.
I have successfully removed skin tags with freezer spray BUT NOT by
squirting it on my skin.
I have dribbled the freezer liquid from the can on to a cotton bud, let
the cotton bud freeze and then repeatedly applied the cotton bud to the
skin tag so it freezes solid. The (electrical) freezer can came with a
straw and by very gently pressing the spray top the freezer doesn't
rapidly come out - instead drops of the liquid appear at the straw
output. This is used to soak the cotton bud and then as the liquid
evaporates the cotton bud rapidly freezes. This is when it is applied to
the skin tag.
The completely frozen skin tag will take a week or so to fall off.

That's interesting. I have one over a bottom rib and clothing rubs on it
when I'm walking. I don't want to cut it off as that could get messy -
anticoagulant! The doctor tying it with a thread also, as I'd thought of
doing that.
The only reason I haven't had a go is that the dermatologist wanted to send
it to the path. lab just in case. I was offered an appointment for it to be
done - mid-April! Not worth the risk of going into town or into the
hospital.

[Owain Lastname]

Post by PeterC
The only reason I haven't had a go is that the dermatologist wanted to send
it to the path. lab just in case.

Couldn't they offer you a freepost envelope to send the home-removed item to the lab?

Owain

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I think there are laws about biological materials and packaging.
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Post by Owain Lastname

Post by PeterC
The only reason I haven't had a go is that the dermatologist wanted to send
it to the path. lab just in case.

Couldn't they offer you a freepost envelope to send the home-removed item to the lab?
Owain

[tim...]

Post by Brian Gaff (Sofa)
I think there are laws about biological materials and packaging.

though that's not a reason

a "frozen" off one can't be analysed

it needs to be "surgically" removed