Lidl parking

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.

Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.

Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.

Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.

As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.

So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

[Chris]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by Chris

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On
that occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my
details. Not that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed
the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they
could check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date
and time in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a
purchase. They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
warranty. But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the
same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what
happens next.

How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

They wrote to me initially. So obviously have my name and address. Lidl
will have the name etc on their records - it appears on the receipt, along
with the card number.

As I said, what happens if I didn't have the receipt? Just how many people
keep grocery receipts for weeks?

[Brian-Gaff]

Most of the local hospitals use this sort of system these days, but what
throws a lot of them is blind people with blue badges, as we can turn up in
almost any car, so their cunning plan to ally a car number with a badge
won't work.
Brian
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Post by Chris

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On
that occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my
details. Not that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed
the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they
could check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date
and time in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a
purchase. They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
warranty. But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the
same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what
happens next.

How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

They wrote to me initially. So obviously have my name and address. Lidl
will have the name etc on their records - it appears on the receipt, along
with the card number.
As I said, what happens if I didn't have the receipt? Just how many people
keep grocery receipts for weeks?
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[Jethro_uk]

Post by Brian-Gaff
Most of the local hospitals use this sort of system these days, but what
throws a lot of them is blind people with blue badges, as we can turn up
in almost any car, so their cunning plan to ally a car number with a
badge won't work.
Brian

But they can (and do) insist only disabled tax cars are valid ...
certainly Birmingham Town Hall does ...

[Adrian]

Post by Jethro_uk

Post by Brian-Gaff
Most of the local hospitals use this sort of system these days, but
what throws a lot of them is blind people with blue badges, as we can
turn up in almost any car, so their cunning plan to ally a car number
with a badge won't work.

But they can (and do) insist only disabled tax cars are valid ...
certainly Birmingham Town Hall does ...

Well, since it's unlikely the blind person will be driving, there's not a
great issue with the sighted driver dropping the blind passenger
somewhere convenient, then parking elsewhere, before returning to their
passenger.

A driver with very reduced mobility, otoh, that might be a big issue.

[charles]

Post by Chris

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details.
Not that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system
anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and
time in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a
purchase. They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
warranty. But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the
same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what
happens next.

How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it doesn't
end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

[Bill Wright]

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it doesn't
end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

Bill

[Graham.]

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it doesn't
end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.
Bill

And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

My problem is that I drive a company (leased) car so the DVLA
search returns the leaseing company's details, and they email my
employer who pass the details on to me.
The leasing company charge my employer £20 for doing this, and my
employer in turn deducts this administration fee from my salary.

Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or Road Traffic
Act offence, the admin charge still stands.

[charles]

Post by Graham.

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.
Bill

And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking space.
Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored system, a
parking space is usually available, implying that many of the spaces were
being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop there. Some people
may, on principle stop going there, but others will take their place.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by charles

Post by Graham.
And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of the
spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
take their place.

Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of their
others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.

I've no complaint about that - merely this company expecting me to provide
the proof I shopped when I said I did, when Lidl obviously already know
this.

Not everyone has the facilities to scan a receipt and email it to them -
and indeed plenty won't have kept a receipt anyway.

[Tough Guy no. 1265]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by charles

Post by Graham.
And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of the
spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
take their place.

Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of their
others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.

Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with fucking tickets.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
fucking tickets.

Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.

[Adrian]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
fucking tickets.

Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.

Or, indeed, the centre of any major city anywhere worldwide.

[Capitol]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
fucking tickets.

Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.

Why would anyone want to from choice?

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:45:00 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by charles

Post by Graham.
And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of the
spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
take their place.

Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of their
others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.

Supermarkets should have adequate parking.

Easier said than done in some places.

They should be sited on large areas of ground.

Tends to a bit of a shortage of those in some places
where some are silly enough to want to live and shop.

If they don't, they can fuck off.

Off got sick of being fucked.

I want to park my car, go shopping, then go home.

And I use supermarkets where I can do that.

Tad radical I know.

I will not mess about with fucking tickets.

I might well do if there is no alternative
and I want to use that supermarket because
what they have on offer is better than in
the supermarket that does use tickets,
particularly if when not having tickets
you can't find anywhere to park.

[alan_m]

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
fucking tickets.

Rather than NEEDING a car to go to an out of town supermarket ALdi/Lidl
seem to be mainly targeting sites where people actually live and where
people can walk to shop.

[Rod Speed]

Post by alan_m

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should
be sited on large areas of ground. If they don't, they can
fuck off. I want to park my car, go shopping, then go
home. I will not mess about with fucking tickets.

Rather than NEEDING a car to go to an out of town supermarket ALdi/Lidl
seem to be mainly targeting sites where people actually live and where
people can walk to shop.

They don't do that here. Most of them do need a car to be able to get to.

I can't think of any of ours that you can walk to.

[s***@gowanhill.com]

Post by Graham.
Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or Road Traffic
Act offence, the admin charge still stands

If you successfully appeal the parking charge then you should counterclaim against them for the admin charge. It's a loss wholly due to their pursuing an unenforceable claim against you.

Owain

[Fredxxx]

Post by s***@gowanhill.com

Post by Graham.
Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or Road Traffic
Act offence, the admin charge still stands

If you successfully appeal the parking charge then you should
counterclaim against them for the admin charge. It's a loss wholly
due to their pursuing an unenforceable claim against you.

That was my thought initially, but this is really defamation and its
consequences.

Aren't we therefore talking of High Court action?

[Graham.]

Post by Fredxxx

Post by s***@gowanhill.com

Post by Graham.
Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or Road Traffic
Act offence, the admin charge still stands

If you successfully appeal the parking charge then you should
counterclaim against them for the admin charge. It's a loss wholly
due to their pursuing an unenforceable claim against you.

That was my thought initially, but this is really defamation and its
consequences.
Aren't we therefore talking of High Court action?

Defamation? No. Theft maybe!

[Fredxxx]

Post by Graham.

Post by Fredxxx

Post by s***@gowanhill.com

Post by Graham.
Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or Road Traffic
Act offence, the admin charge still stands

If you successfully appeal the parking charge then you should
counterclaim against them for the admin charge. It's a loss wholly
due to their pursuing an unenforceable claim against you.

That was my thought initially, but this is really defamation and its
consequences.
Aren't we therefore talking of High Court action?

Defamation? No. Theft maybe!

What theft? How have the parking charge company benefited from this theft?

[Rod Speed]

Post by Fredxxx

Post by s***@gowanhill.com

Post by Graham.
Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or
Road Traffic Act offence, the admin charge still stands

If you successfully appeal the parking charge then you should
counterclaim against them for the admin charge. It's a loss wholly
due to their pursuing an unenforceable claim against you.

That was my thought initially, but this is
really defamation and its consequences.

No its not, any more than receiving a speed camera fine is.

They can't even demand that you tell them who
was driving the car in the Lidl car park situation.

Post by Fredxxx
Aren't we therefore talking of High Court action?

Nope, just ignore anything they send you and see them
realise that their bluff has been called and give up.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine.

They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

[Tough Guy no. 1265]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the council approve a station with no car park?

[charles]

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did
you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the council
approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to Heathrow
airport.

[Tough Guy no. 1265]

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did
you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the council
approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to Heathrow
airport.

No it isn't.

[charles]

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

[Tough Guy no. 1265]

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

And everything nearby is equally old is it? When a building is knocked down, a car park should be made if there aren't enough already.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

And everything nearby is equally old is it?

Irrelevant.

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
When a building is knocked down, a car park should be made if there aren't
enough already.

Pity about who owns that building and the land
its on and why the knocked the building down
and what they replaced it with.

[newshound]

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

[Tough Guy no. 1265]

Post by newshound

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I don't have parking problems in Scotland.

[charles]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound

Post by newshound

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have
to get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town
& Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter
station (Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it
was seldom more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky
enough to have a car left it at home with the wife.

All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.

That probably depends where in Scotland.

[Tough Guy no. 1265]

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound

Post by newshound

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have
to get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town
& Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter
station (Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it
was seldom more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky
enough to have a car left it at home with the wife.

All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.

That probably depends where in Scotland.

Yes there are a couple of horrid places called Glasgow and Edinburgh, but normal people don't live there.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.

That probably depends where in Scotland.

Certainly does. He's never obviously been to a city there.

[charles]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.

That probably depends where in Scotland.

Certainly does. He's never obviously been to a city there.

Indeed. try parking near Waverley Station

[Bill Wright]

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265
All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.

It's other people who live close to me, not me who lives close to them.

Bill

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound

Post by newshound

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.

But you do have a hell of a problem getting
and keeping a well paid job or even one
that you would be happy to do for free.

[Graham.]

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound

Post by newshound

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

Women driving? Next thing they'll will be smoking pipes.

[Tough Guy no. 1265]

Post by Graham.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound

Post by newshound

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

Women driving? Next thing they'll will be smoking pipes.

[ARW]

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by Graham.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound

Post by newshound

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

Women driving? Next thing they'll will be smoking pipes.

http://youtu.be/mXzqAC_7Vxg

Blocked. But this one isn't

[Rod Speed]

Post by ARW

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by Graham.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound

Post by newshound

Post by charles

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by charles

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

Women driving? Next thing they'll will be smoking pipes.

http://youtu.be/mXzqAC_7Vxg

Blocked.

Nope.

Post by ARW
But this one isn't
http://youtu.be/HVer2e3TX6s

Better than his.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by newshound
Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

And the wife drove in those days?

[Richard]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by newshound
Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

And the wife drove in those days?

No. She stayed at home with the car and did woman's work.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Richard

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by newshound
Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter
station (Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but
it was seldom more than half full. Most of those commuters who
were lucky enough to have a car left it at home with the wife.

And the wife drove in those days?

No. She stayed at home with the car and did woman's work.

So why didn't he park the car at the station ?

And my mum drove the car in the 50s.

Even Liz drove a truck in the 40s and could fix basic problems too.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

It was built before cars were invented. Next point?

[Capitol]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Tough Guy no. 1265

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

It was built before cars were invented. Next point?

Why haven't they built a car park?

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park.

Easier said than done with some stations.

Why did the council approve a station with no car park?

Presumably it was approved in the days before many had cars.

[Jonno]

Dave Plowman (News) scribbled

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

Lidl have set a 2 hour limit at my local shop. Not that it's ever more
than half full.

[Bill Wright]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine.
They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

The best idea is to not use shops in places like that.

Bill

[Rod Speed]

Post by Bill Wright

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Bill Wright

Post by charles

Post by Chris
How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine. They obviously have to control
parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

The best idea is to not use shops in places like that.

You don't necessarily have much choice with operations like Aldi.

[MM]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:59:18 +0100, Chris

Post by Chris

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

How do they link your car registration with your payment card?

Nowadays, EVERYthing's linked, EVERYthing's discoverable.

MM

[Rod Speed]

Post by MM

Post by Chris

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic
so they could check with the store easily that I'd used the
store on the date and time in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove
I made a purchase. They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves.
Be interesting to see what happens next.

How do they link your car registration with your payment card?

Nowadays, EVERYthing's linked, EVERYthing's discoverable.

Nope. Tell me what my mobile phone number is.

Tell me what my care number plate is.

Tell me what the last transaction on my card was.

[michael adams]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them.

There's plenty online, especially in local groups, of people
who've ignored these demands and simply thrown them away
without any consequences at all.
As its cropped up before, and so presumably is actually
in their letter they can't "fine" anyone. Only the Courts
can do that.

I'm not sure of the legal basis on which people have got away
with ignoring these things, but a few minutes Googling may
provide more information.

This was a first Google hit

" Argue your case and stand your ground if you get a ticket – fewer
than 5 per cent of cases are taken to County Court. If they are,
most are found in the motorist’s favour.



http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2711800/Is-Lidl-s-ten-minute-free-parking-90-fine-overstay-going-far.html


michael adams

...

[Jethro_uk]

[quoted text muted]

There's plenty online, especially in local groups, of people who've
ignored these demands and simply thrown them away without any
consequences at all.

Dangerous advice, post Beavis. *Probably* what would happen. But the
courts have allowed it now.

[michael adams]

Post by Jethro_uk

[quoted text muted]

There's plenty online, especially in local groups, of people who've
ignored these demands and simply thrown them away without any
consequences at all.

Dangerous advice, post Beavis. *Probably* what would happen. But the
courts have allowed it now.

As it happens I wasn't advising the OP to do anything. I was simply making
an observation.

Any advice on offer would have been in the webpage to which I left a link


http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2711800/Is-Lidl-s-ten-minute-free-parking-90-fine-overstay-going-far.html


As to Beavis I'm not aware of any judgement being made,
and in any case with Beavis, there is no disagreement as
to fact.

In this case there most certainly is. It's for the complainant
to prove that the OP hadn't shopped in Lidl at the appropriate
times, not for him to prove that he had.



michael adams

...

[Tim w]

Post by michael adams
I'm not sure of the legal basis on which people have got away
with ignoring these things, .....

Simply this:

If you have some land you can run a private car park, no question. Put a
bloke in a kiosk or a pay and display machine, whatever you like,

BUT you are NOT entitled to issue a fine or a ticket for non-compliance
or failure to pay and you are NOT entitled to clamp either.

So what looks like a parking ticket is actually only an invoice for
inflated charges on the basis that you agreed to a contract when you
parked there because the terms were written up on a sign. But you didn't
read the small print and even if you did unreasonable terms are
unenforceable under consumer legislation.

So it is a scam tolerated by every town council in every town centre in
the land. If you ignore the demands the 'fine' wil be doubled and
doubled until it is in the hundreds and backed up by letters from
solicitors that probably don't even exist, with charges added on so it
can get quite scary. In the end it is all bluster and hollow threats.
they can't enforce it in court.

Tim w

[Andy Burns]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras

Same with an aldi I used on Monday, a few hours after I'd left I
realised I hadn't punched my reg into the touchscreen, emailed their
head office, told them I could provide a receipt where the timestamp
would match the camera - they were good about it and said they were
confident they could help me successfully appeal the ticket (outsourced
obviously).

[Bob Minchin]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras

Same with an aldi I used on Monday, a few hours after I'd left I
realised I hadn't punched my reg into the touchscreen, emailed their
head office, told them I could provide a receipt where the timestamp
would match the camera - they were good about it and said they were
confident they could help me successfully appeal the ticket (outsourced
obviously).

The trick with Parking Eye who operate many ALDI carparks is to make not
response at all. you will get 3 letters and then nothing more.

I have been through this a few months back and sat tight as recommended
and had no comeback. The letters and my till receipt are on the
mantelpiece ready for a fight if they try anything!

The folklore is that if you do respond and then fail to convince them
that they will pursue for the payment but I'm not convinced.
They are universally hated by our local ALDI staff who will bend of
backwards to help provide proof that you are a customer.

They are the scum of the earth using frightening tactics to extort
money. Going through the courts as they suggest costs them far too much
and they don't bother.

[Tim Watts]

Post by Bob Minchin
They are the scum of the earth using frightening tactics to extort
money. Going through the courts as they suggest costs them far too much
and they don't bother.

Bit like TVL then...

[ARW]

Post by Tim Watts

Post by Bob Minchin
They are the scum of the earth using frightening tactics to extort
money. Going through the courts as they suggest costs them far too much
and they don't bother.

Bit like TVL then...

They say they will be visiting me on the Thurday:-)

[Tim Watts]

Post by ARW

Post by Tim Watts

Post by Bob Minchin
They are the scum of the earth using frightening tactics to extort
money. Going through the courts as they suggest costs them far too much
and they don't bother.

Bit like TVL then...

They say they will be visiting me on the Thurday:-)

Posting a video?

[Davey]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:41:03 +0100

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On
that occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my
details. Not that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed
the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they
could check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date
and time in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a
purchase. They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
warranty. But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the
same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what
happens next.

Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.

Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

[Adrian]

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

[Scion]

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,

Their cold meats are nice, and where else do you go when the craving for a
tin of herrings in mustard and parsley sauce hits?

Post by Adrian
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range,

Some stuff is comparable, some *is* much cheaper.

Post by Adrian
and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging wuckfits.

That might improve as they are now paid the living wage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34281559

[Adrian]

Post by Scion

Post by Adrian
I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,

Their cold meats are nice

Last cold meat I bought in one was some Bresaola, in Italy. The packaging
had more flavour.

Post by Scion
and where else do you go when the craving for a tin of herrings in
mustard and parsley sauce hits?

I can honestly say it never has - although SWMBO's scandi half is rather
partial to dill sill, so the Swedish embassy supplies that portion of her
diet (in glass jars), rather than the German embassy.

Post by Scion

Post by Adrian
and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging wuckfits.

That might improve as they are now paid the living wage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34281559

Aldidl are only paying a relatively small minority of the knuckle-
dragging wuckfits.

[News]

In message <mv8j84$52s$***@dont-email.me>, Scion <***@nospam.invalid>
writes

Post by Scion
where else do you go when the craving for a
tin of herrings in mustard and parsley sauce hits?

So far, I've waited 63 years for the first hit :-)

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by Scion

Post by Adrian
and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging wuckfits.

That might improve as they are now paid the living wage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34281559

I assumed Adrian meant the customers?

In general, Lidl staff seem a happier lot than Tesco. I'd guess because
the company values them more.

[Capitol]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)

Post by Scion

Post by Adrian
and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging wuckfits.

That might improve as they are now paid the living wage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34281559

I assumed Adrian meant the customers?
In general, Lidl staff seem a happier lot than Tesco. I'd guess because
the company values them more.

The customers also seem happier!

[charles]

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.

[Adrian]

Post by charles

Post by Adrian
I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.

My findings haven't varied from Aldidls across at least five countries.
Mind you, the stores themselves were utterly indistinguishable across
those five countries, either.

[alan_m]

Post by charles
not my findings round here.

The knuckle dragging fuckwits that use my local Lidl/Aldi fill the car
parks with their Chelsea tractors and can be heard to say how
down-market the shop is as they pile their trolleys high.

[stuart noble]

Post by charles

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.

Or here

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Post by charles

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.

Tunbridge Wells is getting an Aldi - not far from the station (well
right next to, if you include Tunbridge Wells West station!).

Although it's not somewhere I'm likely to do my regular shop[1] I'm
expecting to go and sample their more interesting items...

[1] I could be persuaded, but we'll have to see...

[Capitol]

Aldi is just about the only grocer still selling breadcrumbed
Camemberts. Their junk collection is much wider than Lidl.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Capitol
Aldi is just about the only grocer still
selling breadcrumbed Camemberts.

Bloody hell. Can't imagine why for the life of me.

They don't even stock chutney routinely here.

Post by Capitol
Their junk collection is much wider than Lidl.

[Adrian]

Post by Capitol
Aldi is just about the only grocer still selling breadcrumbed
Camemberts.

Are you incapable of egg-dipping then breadcrumbing your own camembert?

Alternatively, just take an unbreadcrumbed camembert, unwrap it then put
it back in the box - and put the box in the oven. Take the lid off, and
dip crusty bread in. Even better than deep-fried breadcrumbed.

[Bob Minchin]

Post by Tim Watts

Post by charles

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.

Tunbridge Wells is getting an Aldi - not far from the station (well
right next to, if you include Tunbridge Wells West station!).
Although it's not somewhere I'm likely to do my regular shop[1] I'm
expecting to go and sample their more interesting items...
[1] I could be persuaded, but we'll have to see...

That was my thinking about a year ago. Now about 80% of our weekly shop
comes from Aldi and the rest from a fortnightly trip to ASDA and the odd
trip to Costco.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Bob Minchin

Post by Tim Watts

Post by charles

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.

Tunbridge Wells is getting an Aldi - not far from the station (well
right next to, if you include Tunbridge Wells West station!).
Although it's not somewhere I'm likely to do my regular shop[1] I'm
expecting to go and sample their more interesting items...
[1] I could be persuaded, but we'll have to see...

That was my thinking about a year ago. Now about 80% of our weekly shop
comes from Aldi and the rest from a fortnightly trip to ASDA and the odd
trip to Costco.

What don’t you get from Aldi and is that because you don’t like
Aldi's offering on that, the price or because its not stocked ?

[Bob Minchin]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Bob Minchin

Post by Tim Watts

Post by charles

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.

Tunbridge Wells is getting an Aldi - not far from the station (well
right next to, if you include Tunbridge Wells West station!).
Although it's not somewhere I'm likely to do my regular shop[1] I'm
expecting to go and sample their more interesting items...
[1] I could be persuaded, but we'll have to see...

That was my thinking about a year ago. Now about 80% of our weekly
shop comes from Aldi and the rest from a fortnightly trip to ASDA and
the odd trip to Costco.

What don’t you get from Aldi and is that because you don’t like
Aldi's offering on that, the price or because its not stocked ?

It is a mix of offering and stock Rod. We prefer unsliced bread and Aldi
don't stock that. I am diabetic so we buy diet cold drinks and Aldi are
often sold out.
Prices are better or equal to those of ASDA.
Wine quality at Aldi is excellent but stock levels are variable which
leads me to stock up when I see a favourite in stock, which depletes the
stock for the next customer of course!

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

Not at Clapham Junction. They use ASDA.

I don't buy fresh food at Lidl. But they are very good for many other
things.

[Capitol]

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

Must be your neighborhood!

[Richard]

Post by Capitol

Post by Adrian

Post by Davey
Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.
Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

Must be your neighborhood!

Nah. He walked into a hall of mirrors once and the experience has scarred
him for life.

[Brian-Gaff]

Well their hq appears to be moving from Wimbledon to Tolworth if they get
around to building their Lego monstrosity.
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Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.
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Post by Brian-Gaff
Well their hq appears to be moving from Wimbledon to Tolworth if they get
around to building their Lego monstrosity.
Brian

Not Tolworth Towers?

I lived in Tolworth - for the first year of my life anyway.

[Dave Baker]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

Nothing will and there's no need to respond any further. It's a fairly
fundamental principle of civil litigation that you aren't obliged to do the
other side's homework for them. Just keep the evidence in case they're
stupid enough to make a claim in court but they won't. Their procedure is
likely to fire off a couple of letters to try and flush the really nervous
types out and earn a few quid and give up on anyone else.

[unknown]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?

[Andy Burns]

Post by unknown

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?

Because that doesn't stop people parking at lidl while shopping elsewhere?

[charles]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by unknown

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?

Because that doesn't stop people parking at lidl while shopping elsewhere?

My local Lidl, which takes numbers, allows 1½ hours free parking. This
allows you to go other shops, or the bank, after you have done your Lidl
shopping

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by charles

Post by Andy Burns
Because that doesn't stop people parking at lidl while shopping elsewhere?

My local Lidl, which takes numbers, allows 1½ hours free parking. This
allows you to go other shops, or the bank, after you have done your Lidl
shopping

You're allowed 90 minutes at this Lidl too - but you do have to make a
purchase to get the parking validated. According to the letter I got, I
was only there for 25 minutes.

[Adrian]

Post by unknown

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?

Probably because even short-term minutes parking near Clapham Junction is
at an expensive premium, and if the store want to provide it free to
their customers, they want to ensure their customers aren't blocked out
of all spaces by non-customers...

[unknown]

Post by Adrian

Post by unknown

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?

Probably because even short-term minutes parking near Clapham Junction is
at an expensive premium, and if the store want to provide it free to
their customers, they want to ensure their customers aren't blocked out
of all spaces by non-customers...

Fair enough. In the same town as my Lidl you get the first two hours
free in the town centre car park.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Post by Adrian

Post by unknown

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?

Probably because even short-term minutes parking near Clapham Junction
is at an expensive premium, and if the store want to provide it free to
their customers, they want to ensure their customers aren't blocked out
of all spaces by non-customers...

Yes - there is a Boots next door with no car park. The ASDA - where you
you don't need a purchase to park - is rather further away.

Other Lidl car parks in the area don't seem to have any restrictions at
all - apart from the usual signs.

[polygonum]

Post by unknown

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?

Which fails as a technique if they miss you going out. They might then
see a going-in one day and a going-out the next - and assume an
overnight+ stay.

[Andy Burns]

Post by polygonum

Post by unknown
Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out

Which fails as a technique if they miss you going out.

The local Sainsbury's have never failed in that way.

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

I'm not being horrible, but it seems to me that most of these parking
problems happen in the south.
We have never ever had problems parking in supermarket car parks in the
north.
Even if we won £40M we would never move to the south.
See, I've not been horrible.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Mr Pounder Esquire

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

I'm not being horrible,

You were spawned horrible, that's why you were
strangled at spawning time but your 'parents' are
so inbred that they couldn’t even manage to get
that right because they were so blotto at the time.

Post by Mr Pounder Esquire
but it seems to me that most of these parking problems happen in the
south.
We have never ever had problems parking in supermarket car parks in the
north.

Because you lot can't afford cars, stupid.

Post by Mr Pounder Esquire
Even if we won £40M we would never move to the south.

Because you would be summarily executed
if you were stupid enough to try that.

Post by Mr Pounder Esquire
See, I've not been horrible.

You were spawned horrible, that's why you were
strangled at spawning time but your 'parents' are
so inbred that they couldn’t even manage to get
that right because they were so blotto at the time.

[Phil L]

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

I've never been to an Aldi or Lidl that has parking charges of any kind,
almost all the ones I know of are shared car parks, Lidl shares with a large
gym chain, Aldi shares with Halfords, Maplins, Iceland and a few poundshops
etc

[Brian-Gaff]

Talking about terms and conditions, does anyone actually read them on
anything these days.
I had this very silly thought the other day that if I wanted to run a car
park I'd put in the terms, all patrons parking here have to disrobe before
entering the shop as the s staff need a good laugh.
:-)

Brian
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Remember, if you don't like where I post
or what I say, you don't have to
read my posts! :-)

Post by Phil L

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

I've never been to an Aldi or Lidl that has parking charges of any kind,
almost all the ones I know of are shared car parks, Lidl shares with a
large gym chain, Aldi shares with Halfords, Maplins, Iceland and a few
poundshops etc

[Rod Speed]

Post by Brian-Gaff
Talking about terms and conditions, does anyone actually read them on
anything these days.

A few of the most anal do.

Post by Brian-Gaff
I had this very silly thought the other day that if I wanted to run a car
park I'd put in the terms, all patrons parking here have to disrobe before
entering the shop as the s staff need a good laugh.
:-)

Bet if you did that, it would be noticed pretty quickly.

Post by Brian-Gaff

Post by Phil L

Post by Dave Plowman (News)
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.
Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.
As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

I've never been to an Aldi or Lidl that has parking charges of any kind,
almost all the ones I know of are shared car parks, Lidl shares with a
large gym chain, Aldi shares with Halfords, Maplins, Iceland and a few
poundshops etc