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Commander Kinsey
2021-12-29 20:29:30 UTC
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It's coming up on two years now, and they're still fucking us about. My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his dying wife during the last 3 weeks of her life, despite them both being triple vaccinated. The morons in charge need to be jailed now.

A quick google search shows people are not allowed to dance at weddings, but they can in nightclubs. So not even consistantly stupid.
Rod Speed
2021-12-29 20:36:44 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
It's coming up on two years now, and they're still fucking us about.
Because, unlike you, they aren't psychopaths and care about
the immense pile of corpses it has already produced.
Post by Commander Kinsey
My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his dying wife during the last 3
weeks of her life,
He was free to use zoom.
Post by Commander Kinsey
despite them both being triple vaccinated.
That doesn't eliminate any possibility of infection
and killing others in the care home.
Post by Commander Kinsey
The morons in charge need to be jailed now.
You need a bullet in the back of the neck, as always.
Post by Commander Kinsey
A quick google search shows people are not allowed to dance at weddings,
Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
Post by Commander Kinsey
but they can in nightclubs.
So not even consistantly stupid.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside the relevant
parliament.
Commander Kinsey
2021-12-29 20:59:26 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
It's coming up on two years now, and they're still fucking us about.
Because, unlike you, they aren't psychopaths and care about
the immense pile of corpses it has already produced.
Are we going to continue this nonsense forever? They aren't going to cure it. They didn't cure aids.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his dying wife during the last 3
weeks of her life,
He was free to use zoom.
He doesn't even own a computer you sick cunt.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
despite them both being triple vaccinated.
That doesn't eliminate any possibility of infection
and killing others in the care home.
At least you admit the vaccines are a total waste of time and money.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
The morons in charge need to be jailed now.
You need a bullet in the back of the neck, as always.
There is no need to govern anyone. We are not children.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
A quick google search shows people are not allowed to dance at weddings,
Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
Post by Commander Kinsey
but they can in nightclubs.
So not even consistantly stupid.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside the relevant
parliament.
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
Rod Speed
2021-12-29 21:17:02 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
It's coming up on two years now, and they're still fucking us about.
Because, unlike you, they aren't psychopaths and care about
the immense pile of corpses it has already produced.
Are we going to continue this nonsense forever?
Nope, that didn't happen even with the
spanish flu, the black death, ebola etc.
Post by Commander Kinsey
They aren't going to cure it.
That remains to be seen. SARS did die out by itself
and while the black death isn't gone completely its
close enough to that now in the first world and
ebola is under adequate control.
Post by Commander Kinsey
They didn't cure aids.
We did eliminate smallpox from the wild and polio
is now gone from all but the most stupid moslem
countrys. All of measles, whooping cough, diphtheria
etc etc etc are no longer a problem for those who
have enough of a clue to get vaccinated.
Post by Commander Kinsey
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his
dying wife during the last 3 weeks of her life,
He was free to use zoom.
He doesn't even own a computer you sick cunt.
He was free to get a smartphone or
borrow one you stupid psychopath.
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
despite them both being triple vaccinated.
That doesn't eliminate any possibility of infection
and killing others in the care home.
At least you admit the vaccines are
a total waste of time and money.
I did nothing of the sort. The almost eliminate severe
disease and being killed by the virus and very significantly
reduce the risk of getting infected by covid.
Post by Commander Kinsey
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
The morons in charge need to be jailed now.
You need a bullet in the back of the neck, as always.
There is no need to govern anyone. We are not children.
Fools like you are too stupid to do what makes sense.
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
A quick google search shows people
are not allowed to dance at weddings,
Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
And only fools are stupid enough to get married.
Post by Commander Kinsey
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
but they can in nightclubs.
So not even consistantly stupid.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to
yourself outside the relevant parliament.
What annoys me is how many people continue
to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to
yourself outside the relevant polling booths.
Peeler
2021-12-29 21:35:26 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 08:17:02 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>
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Ozzietard:

Birdbrain: "Horse shit doesn't stink."

Senile Rodent: "It does if you roll in it."

Birdbrain: "I've never worked out why, I assumed it was maybe meateaters
that made stinky shit, but then why does vegetarian human shit stink? Is it
just the fact that we're capable of digesting meat?"

Senile Rodent: "Nope, some cow shit stinks too."

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Commander Kinsey
2021-12-29 22:13:13 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
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It's coming up on two years now, and they're still fucking us about.
Because, unlike you, they aren't psychopaths and care about
the immense pile of corpses it has already produced.
Are we going to continue this nonsense forever?
Nope, that didn't happen even with the
spanish flu, the black death, ebola etc.
I see no sign of it stopping, unless they actually make a cure and stop pansying about with semi effective vaccines.
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Post by Commander Kinsey
They aren't going to cure it.
That remains to be seen. SARS did die out by itself
and while the black death isn't gone completely its
close enough to that now in the first world and
ebola is under adequate control.
They die out when we get immune to them.
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Post by Commander Kinsey
They didn't cure aids.
We did eliminate smallpox from the wild and polio
is now gone from all but the most stupid moslem
countrys. All of measles, whooping cough, diphtheria
etc etc etc are no longer a problem for those who
have enough of a clue to get vaccinated.
You mean catastrophising pessimistic worry warts.
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Post by Rod Speed
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My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his
dying wife during the last 3 weeks of her life,
He was free to use zoom.
He doesn't even own a computer you sick cunt.
He was free to get a smartphone or
borrow one you stupid psychopath.
He doesn't use technology. And it's hardly the same as meeting them in person.
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despite them both being triple vaccinated.
That doesn't eliminate any possibility of infection
and killing others in the care home.
At least you admit the vaccines are
a total waste of time and money.
I did nothing of the sort. The almost eliminate severe
disease and being killed by the virus and very significantly
reduce the risk of getting infected by covid.
So, no need to worry then.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
Post by Rod Speed
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The morons in charge need to be jailed now.
You need a bullet in the back of the neck, as always.
There is no need to govern anyone. We are not children.
Fools like you are too stupid to do what makes sense.
I'll decide on my own risks thankyou very much.
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A quick google search shows people
are not allowed to dance at weddings,
Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
And only fools are stupid enough to get married.
I'm guessing nobody ever liked you enough.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Commander Kinsey
Post by Rod Speed
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but they can in nightclubs.
So not even consistantly stupid.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to
yourself outside the relevant parliament.
What annoys me is how many people continue
to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to
yourself outside the relevant polling booths.
I doubt that would change the vote.
Fredxx
2021-12-29 22:56:11 UTC
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My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his
dying wife during the last 3 weeks of her life,
He was free to use zoom.
He doesn't even own a computer you sick cunt.
He was free to get a smartphone or
borrow one you stupid psychopath.
He doesn't use technology.  And it's hardly the same as meeting them in
person.
It sounds to me he didn't want to see her.
Peeler
2021-12-29 23:19:25 UTC
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:56:11 +0000, Fredxx, the notorious, troll-feeding,
Post by Fredxx
It sounds to me he didn't want to see her.
It sounds to me you are feeding the troll again, senile smartass!
Dave Plowman (News)
2021-12-30 11:03:31 UTC
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My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his
dying wife during the last 3 weeks of her life,
He was free to use zoom.
He doesn't even own a computer you sick cunt.
He was free to get a smartphone or
borrow one you stupid psychopath.
He doesn't use technology. And it's hardly the same as meeting them in person.
It sounds to me he didn't want to see her.
I'd guess there's a lot more to it than one of our resident loonies is
reporting.
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Commander Kinsey
2021-12-30 22:13:38 UTC
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My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his
dying wife during the last 3 weeks of her life,
He was free to use zoom.
He doesn't even own a computer you sick cunt.
He was free to get a smartphone or
borrow one you stupid psychopath.
He doesn't use technology. And it's hardly the same as meeting them in person.
It sounds to me he didn't want to see her.
I'd guess there's a lot more to it than one of our resident loonies is
reporting.
What do you believe I've left out?
Rod Speed
2022-01-02 20:24:10 UTC
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It's coming up on two years now, and they're still fucking us about.
Because, unlike you, they aren't psychopaths and care about
the immense pile of corpses it has already produced.
Are we going to continue this nonsense forever?
Nope, that didn't happen even with the
spanish flu, the black death, ebola etc.
I see no sign of it stopping,
It took a while with the spanish flu, the black death and SARS.
We have a fucking immune system,
Which didn't help any with the spanish flu, smallpox,
measles, polio, diphtheria, flu, the common cold, the
black death etc etc etc.
and we're thwarting our ability to evolve.
That's wrong too with covid which
mostly kills those way past reproducing.
Post by Commander Kinsey
unless they actually make a cure
Getting enough vaccinated was the cure with smallpox and polio.
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and stop pansying about with semi effective vaccines.
Which were produced in a such short time never seen before.
And were utterly pointless.
Nope, it radically reduces the risk of severe disease and the virus
killing you and helps quite a bit to stop you getting infected too.
Like repairing your car window with sellotape.
Nothing like in fact.
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They aren't going to cure it.
That remains to be seen. SARS did die out by itself
and while the black death isn't gone completely its
close enough to that now in the first world and
ebola is under adequate control.
They die out when we get immune to them.
Wrong with smallpox and polio.
How do you expect us to become immune when we're hidden from them with
cotton wool?
We don't need to when the virus is eliminated from the
wild like smallpox has been and polio is close to that now.
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Post by Rod Speed
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They didn't cure aids.
We did eliminate smallpox from the wild and polio
is now gone from all but the most stupid moslem
countrys. All of measles, whooping cough, diphtheria
etc etc etc are no longer a problem for those who
have enough of a clue to get vaccinated.
You mean catastrophising pessimistic worry warts.
Nope, those with a clue. Unlike fools like you.
Why do you worry about a less than 1 in 1000 chance of death?
Because its so easy to avoid being killed by covid
and avoid severe disease even if you do recover.
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My neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his
dying wife during the last 3 weeks of her life,
He was free to use zoom.
He doesn't even own a computer you sick cunt.
He was free to get a smartphone or
borrow one you stupid psychopath.
He doesn't use technology.
He gets to do that if he wants to see his dying
wife in during the last 3 weeks of her life.
It's not seeing it it?
Try that again in english. Even google
translate doesn't do gobbledegook yet.
He's not really by her side.
That's life or death with a pandemic.
He doesn't get to risk killing others in the care home.
He's fucking vaccinated with that pointless vaccine you love. THREE
TIMES!
Doesn't eliminate all infection.
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And it's hardly the same as meeting them in person.
Pandemics have their downsides, stupid.
A pandemic would kill 1 in 3, like the black death, not 1 in 1000.
Wrong, as always.
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despite them both being triple vaccinated.
That doesn't eliminate any possibility of infection
and killing others in the care home.
At least you admit the vaccines are
a total waste of time and money.
I did nothing of the sort. The almost eliminate severe
disease and being killed by the virus and very significantly
reduce the risk of getting infected by covid.
So, no need to worry then.
Wrong, as always. The risk of infection isn't zero
1 in 1000 might aswell be zero.
Tell that to those who have had their relos killed by the virus.
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Post by Rod Speed
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The morons in charge need to be jailed now.
You need a bullet in the back of the neck, as always.
There is no need to govern anyone. We are not children.
Fools like you are too stupid to do what makes sense.
I'll decide on my own risks thankyou very much.
No you wont, we will make fools like you do what you
are too stupid to work out you need to do for yourself.
Can you not see how illogical it is to protect someone from themselves?
Nothing illogical about stopping fools like you infecting others.
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A quick google search shows people
are not allowed to dance at weddings,
Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
And only fools are stupid enough to get married.
I'm guessing nobody ever liked you enough.
Corse you had to beat them off with sticks.
I don't believe you.
You have always been, and always will be, completely
and utterly irrelevant. What you might or might not
claim to believe in spades.
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but they can in nightclubs.
So not even consistantly stupid.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to
yourself outside the relevant parliament.
What annoys me is how many people continue
to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to
yourself outside the relevant polling booths.
I doubt that would change the vote.
But you would no longer be annoyed.
There are plenty others that are annoyed.
Their problem.
David Brooks
2021-12-30 08:47:20 UTC
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Are we going to continue this nonsense forever?  They aren't going to
cure it.  They didn't cure aids.
They didn't cure Spanish Flu. They did impose restrictions like wearing
face masks and prohibiting public gatherings until it mutated into a
less deadly form - the H1N1 seasonal flu we still see today. Omicron is
a sign that Covid may be going the same way.
FYI

Commandeer Kinsey should read here:-

http://www.rossde.com/index.html

I was saddened to hear about the loss of his neighbour, someone he had
helped and cared for, I'm sure.
T
2021-12-30 09:11:51 UTC
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Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,

The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative. Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.

If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL. And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.

There is no difference in transmission in either
jabbed or unjabbed communities:

Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/

And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
the unjabbed:

Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in
the UK: a prospective, longitudinal, cohort study:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext

So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab! And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!

-T
David Brooks
2021-12-30 09:39:18 UTC
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Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative.  Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL.  And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
   Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
   https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
    Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab!  And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!
-T
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!

I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
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David
T
2021-12-30 10:11:09 UTC
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I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
If he believes the stuff he is repeating and not
actual science papers, he is indeed a fool.
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
David,

Those jabs and boosters are not protect other folks
from you. Zero. The infection rates are the same
for jab and no jab. The spread is the same too.
And the virus load is the same jab or no jab.
I posted legitimate science/medical papers to prove
this, but you obviously did not read them.

And you may not even be protecting yourself either.
here is a graph showing all causes of death for
jab and non jab.

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Note how fast you lose protection.

Be damned careful. If you show covid symptoms, s
T
2021-12-30 12:52:52 UTC
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Post by David Brooks
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
If he believes the stuff he is repeating and not
actual science papers, he is indeed a fool.
Post by David Brooks
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster
to help keep other folk safe too. :-D
David,
Those jabs and boosters are not protect other folks
from you. Zero. The infection rates are the same
for jab and no jab. The spread is the same too.
And the virus load is the same jab or no jab.
I posted legitimate science/medical papers to prove
this, but you obviously did not read them.
And you may not even be protecting yourself either.
here is a graph showing all causes of death for
jab and non jab.
https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screen-Shot-2021-11-26-at-7.42.29-PM.png
Post by T
Note how fast you lose protection.
Be damned careful. If you show covid symptoms, seek
help immediately!
-T
Our paper today said that our hospitals in Delaware are clogged with
covid patients and 78% are unvaccinated.
Did they give a breakdown of percent of what was in
their beds? "Clogged" is not a number.
Wife needed out patient surgery in hospital yesterday and had to be
tested beforehand even though she is fully vaccinated.
Makes sense. You still catch covid with the jab. And the
viral load is the same as the unvaxed.
For me to go
with her I had to show vaccination proof. The hospital is also allowing
vaccinated visitors.
That is sill. The viral load is the same for vax and unvax.>
Last year when I was hospitalized for a few days getting a heart valve,
my wife could stay before surgery but had to leave afterwards and no
visitors allowed. That was pre-vaccine.
Delta is nasty! Do you know the vaccination rate of
your town?

The jab does supply about six weeks of greater protection
based on data from the British government, but drops
pretty fast after that.

Heart valve!!!! Are you all patched back up?
T
2021-12-31 06:52:40 UTC
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Heart valve!!!!  Are you all patched back up?
Heart valve procedure I had is called a TAVR where they use a catheter
and put in a stent with a cow valve to replace the calcified aortic
valve.  I did have side effects, bleeding into groin and then atrial
flutter keeping me in the hospital for four days.  I went back to the
hospital to get shocked back to normal and flutter had gone away and
shocking was not necessary.  Now I am in much better shape.
With wife and I needing medical things done it was a year full of
doctors and hospital all going on while virus raged.  PITA even without
virus.
It seems that non-virus hospitalizations have been sped up to keep you
in the hospital for as short a time as possible.  Wife's surgery
yesterday was as an outpatient and even her knee replacement three
months ago was as an outpatient.
I did not even see my cardiologists before TAVR as all correspondence
beforehand was over the phone.
¡Ay, caramba!

Good to hear you are back to normal again. Many years Frank
Frank
2021-12-31 12:20:44 UTC
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Heart valve!!!!  Are you all patched back up?
Heart valve procedure I had is called a TAVR where they use a catheter
and put in a stent with a cow valve to replace the calcified aortic
valve.  I did have side effects, bleeding into groin and then atrial
flutter keeping me in the hospital for four days.  I went back to the
hospital to get shocked back to normal and flutter had gone away and
shocking was not necessary.  Now I am in much better shape.
With wife and I needing medical things done it was a year full of
doctors and hospital all going on while virus raged.  PITA even
without virus.
It seems that non-virus hospitalizations have been sped up to keep you
in the hospital for as short a time as possible.  Wife's surgery
yesterday was as an outpatient and even her knee replacement three
months ago was as an outpatient.
I did not even see my cardiologists before TAVR as all correspondence
beforehand was over the phone.
¡Ay, caramba!
Good to hear you are back to normal again.  Many years Frank.
I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years. They can even add
another on top of it if needed.

Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina. In work up for
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are still
clear which was nice to learn.

I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they found
arteries blocked. Next week he is having open heart to both replace the
valve and bypass the arteries. That is a big deal.
David Brooks
2021-12-31 23:30:43 UTC
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I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years.  They can even add
another on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina.  In work up for
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are still
clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they found
arteries blocked.  Next week he is having open heart to both replace the
valve and bypass the arteries.  That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. ❤️

Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)

It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!
Frank
2022-01-01 12:44:01 UTC
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I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years.  They can even add
another on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina.  In work up for
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are still
clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they found
arteries blocked.  Next week he is having open heart to both replace
the valve and bypass the arteries.  That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. ❤️
Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)
It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!
Thanks.

I am reminded of being on a treadmill talking to a friend next to me
about the joys of aging. His comment was we are not just getting old,
we are old.

Wife has had the problems of late but doing fine. She commented that
she could tolerate more me having problems then her having problems.

Then, last night celebrating the New Year in the family room last night
she noted a couple of problems in the room that got me up early to
attend to. Those were my problems.
David Brooks
2022-01-01 14:57:35 UTC
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[....]
I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years.  They can even add
another on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina.  In work up for
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are
still clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they found
arteries blocked.  Next week he is having open heart to both replace
the valve and bypass the arteries.  That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. ❤️
Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)
It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!
Thanks.
I am reminded of being on a treadmill talking to a friend next to me
about the joys of aging.  His comment was we are not just getting old,
we are old.
Ha! I suppose we are!
Post by Frank
Wife has had the problems of late but doing fine.  She commented that
she could tolerate more me having problems then her having problems.
Methinks that applies here too!
Post by Frank
Then, last night celebrating the New Year in the family room last night
she noted a couple of problems in the room that got me up early to
attend to.  Those were my problems.
Got it! :-D

I understand a little of what you've talked about as, in March 2020,
right out of the blue, I watched my wife depart from home in an
ambulance with blue lights flashing and sirens wailing. It turned out
that this essential component had been 99% blocked:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_anterior_descending_artery

She fine now, although there has been a threat of open-heart surgery to
replace the valve you have been discussing.

I've discovered that there's a bit of an emotional roller-coaster
involved too, maybe caused by the number of drugs one has to take to
'stay safe'.

Somehow, Covid19 hasn't been of too much concern.

Good luck to you and your wife during this coming New Year!
--
Kind regards,
David
Frank
2022-01-01 20:04:11 UTC
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Post by Frank
Post by David Brooks
[....]
I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years.  They can even add
another on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina.  In work up
for TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are
still clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they found
arteries blocked.  Next week he is having open heart to both replace
the valve and bypass the arteries.  That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. ❤️
Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)
It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!
Thanks.
I am reminded of being on a treadmill talking to a friend next to me
about the joys of aging.  His comment was we are not just getting old,
we are old.
Ha! I suppose we are!
Post by Frank
Wife has had the problems of late but doing fine.  She commented that
she could tolerate more me having problems then her having problems.
Methinks that applies here too!
Post by Frank
Then, last night celebrating the New Year in the family room last
night she noted a couple of problems in the room that got me up early
to attend to.  Those were my problems.
Got it! :-D
I understand a little of what you've talked about as, in March 2020,
right out of the blue, I watched my wife depart from home in an
ambulance with blue lights flashing and sirens wailing. It turned out
that this essential component had been 99% blocked:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_anterior_descending_artery
She fine now, although there has been a threat of open-heart surgery to
replace the valve you have been discussing.
I've discovered that there's a bit of an emotional roller-coaster
involved too, maybe caused by the number of drugs one has to take to
'stay safe'.
Somehow, Covid19 hasn't been of too much concern.
Good luck to you and your wife during this coming New Year!
It was my LAD that needed stents because of unstable angina. I figured
I was developing angina as chest was heavy walking on path up hill and
went away at the top of the hill. I did not have a heart attack but
heaviness came on in bed. People in ambulance thought I was fine but I
insisted on going to hospital where blood test showed potential problem.
This was about 16 years ago.

Calcified aortic artery was showing up on echo-cardiogram and got to
severe stage. Nice thing was when worked up for heart valve they found
coronary arteries OK. TAVR is safer than SAVR which guy mentioned is
having because of blocked arteries but think it is only a percent or two.

I had open heart over 20 years ago to remove a pulmonary embolism. That
was a serious concern with maybe 10% mortality rate and I knew others
that had the same surgery without curing problem and they died.

The family room problem I had to take care of this am was not a problem.
David Brooks
2022-01-02 08:42:47 UTC
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I was just fortunate in beating the percentages and the bad ones were
never over ten percent.  But, one doctor told me that eventually someone
gets hit with the low percentage.
Thread is about covid.  Many here say they will just take the chance as
percentage is low.  I would say best to do what you can to avoid in case
that low percent happens to hit you.
Now just to irritate those on the left here, I might say that when I got
the TAVR there was a 2 percent chance of a stroke.  I was quipping to
the hospital staff that I was glad to be leaving without a brain like
Joe Biden's.
Haha!

Perhaps you'd like to share this amongst your chums?



Right to the point!
NY
2022-01-01 14:53:18 UTC
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Post by David Brooks
[....]
I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years. They can even add another
on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina. In work up for
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are still
clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they found
arteries blocked. Next week he is having open heart to both replace the
valve and bypass the arteries. That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. ❤️
Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)
It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!
You don't have to be old to have heart problems. I was only 48 when I had a
heart attack and cardiac arrest. I was *slightly* overweight but not really
obese. I've never smoked and I don't drink much alcohol (*). I'd felt a bit
tired and lethargic but I hadn't had any chest/arm pains. I'd been working
in the garden on a hot sultry day, and I came inside because I felt a bit
hot. I'm only alive because my wife (girlfriend at the time) was in the room
next door, heard a loud thump as I fell to the floor, and remembered how to
do CPR from a first-aid course she'd done in her teens. The ambulance crew
worked on me for about 2 hours once they arrived, injecting their whole
stock of adrenaline into me and having to call for more. It was actually a
fire engine which turned up: they carry adrenaline and happened to be
closest, which was useful because they could carry me down to the ambulance.
The ambulance crew had decided to break with protocol and take me to
hospital even though they hadn't got my heart beating unaided, and let
Casualty continue working on me.

Once my heart was firing on all four cylinders (chambers?!) I was
transferred to a larger hospital which had intensive care that could offer
facilities to lower my body temperature for a while, which helps with
recovery.

I survived (obviously!) though my wife and parents were initially told that
I had a low chance of surviving and an even lower chance of escaping being
brain-damaged from possible oxygen starvation to the brain. I was in
hospital for about 3 weeks, and had to learn again how to climb stairs. For
a couple of weeks after I came home, I needed a stick to help me walk more
than a few hundred yards. It was weird as I was coming round from the
induced coma that they'd kept me in, to hear about three big news stories:
the death of Amy Winehouse, the massacre of the schoolchildren in Norway,
and the demise of the News of the World newspaper.

Over 10 years later, I'm still here. I can still do heavy work in the garden
(eg pushing a motor mower which is supposed to be self-propelled but the
drive to the wheels has failed) and can still cycle: in fact my wife had to
buy an electrically-assisted bike to keep up with me.


It was interesting that the surgeon who fitted the stent in Casualty said
that there were smaller blockages in my other two cardiac arteries, and
these would need stents "later" (code for "if you survive"). When I went
along to an out-patients consultation a douple of months later and had an
angiogram, the doctor couldn't find any sign of blockages and even called
another doctor for a second opinion. I remember there was some confusion
because I'd never got the message not to take my medication for two days
before, so the beta-blocker worked too well and they couldn't stimulate my
heart to beat quickly to test how it coped (**). It was only because I'd
happened to phone to ask when my appointment would be and they said "haven't
you had the letter - we need you there this afternoon", and no-one said
"don't take your normal medication".

The only lasting effect is that my arms start to ache very quickly if I hold
them above my head eg when changing a lightbulb, and my perception of
distance isn't quite as good as it was. I can still drive, because I tend to
leave a *bigger* gap from the car ahead, so I'm erring on the side of
caution. It was a good feeling to get back in my car and go for a little
drive near home when I got the go-ahead letter from the DVLA after about 3
months of "don't-drive".


(*) In fact I drink more now than I used to, because it was actually
recommended that I drink a pint of beer or a glass of wine 5 days a week
followed by 2 days "rest", because moderate alcohol is apparently
beneficial. It's a hard medicine but I keep taking it ;-)

(**) Even now, the beta-blocker means my heart rate rarely goes above about
90 bpm even after heavy exercise, but I don't feel any ill effects like
dizzyness.
David Brooks
2022-01-01 17:45:33 UTC
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Post by NY
Post by David Brooks
[....]
I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years.  They can even add
another on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina.  In work up for
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are
still clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they found
arteries blocked.  Next week he is having open heart to both replace
the valve and bypass the arteries.  That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. ❤️
Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)
It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!
You don't have to be old to have heart problems. I was only 48 when I
had a heart attack and cardiac arrest. I was *slightly* overweight but
not really obese. I've never smoked and I don't drink much alcohol (*).
I'd felt a bit tired and lethargic but I hadn't had any chest/arm pains.
I'd been working in the garden on a hot sultry day, and I came inside
because I felt a bit hot. I'm only alive because my wife (girlfriend at
the time) was in the room next door, heard a loud thump as I fell to the
floor, and remembered how to do CPR from a first-aid course she'd done
in her teens. The ambulance crew worked on me for about 2 hours once
they arrived, injecting their whole stock of adrenaline into me and
they carry adrenaline and happened to be closest, which was useful
because they could carry me down to the ambulance. The ambulance crew
had decided to break with protocol and take me to hospital even though
they hadn't got my heart beating unaided, and let Casualty continue
working on me.
Once my heart was firing on all four cylinders (chambers?!) I was
transferred to a larger hospital which had intensive care that could
offer facilities to lower my body temperature for a while, which helps
with recovery.
I survived (obviously!) though my wife and parents were initially told
that I had a low chance of surviving and an even lower chance of
escaping being brain-damaged from possible oxygen starvation to the
brain. I was in hospital for about 3 weeks, and had to learn again how
to climb stairs. For a couple of weeks after I came home, I needed a
stick to help me walk more than a few hundred yards. It was weird as I
was coming round from the induced coma that they'd kept me in, to hear
about three big news stories: the death of Amy Winehouse, the massacre
of the schoolchildren in Norway, and the demise of the News of the World
newspaper.
Over 10 years later, I'm still here. I can still do heavy work in the
garden (eg pushing a motor mower which is supposed to be self-propelled
but the drive to the wheels has failed) and can still cycle: in fact my
wife had to buy an electrically-assisted bike to keep up with me.
It was interesting that the surgeon who fitted the stent in Casualty
said that there were smaller blockages in my other two cardiac arteries,
and these would need stents "later" (code for "if you survive"). When I
went along to an out-patients consultation a douple of months later and
had an angiogram, the doctor couldn't find any sign of blockages and
even called another doctor for a second opinion. I remember there was
some confusion because I'd never got the message not to take my
medication for two days before, so the beta-blocker worked too well and
they couldn't stimulate my heart to beat quickly to test how it coped
(**). It was only because I'd happened to phone to ask when my
appointment would be and they said "haven't you had the letter - we need
you there this afternoon", and no-one said "don't take your normal
medication".
The only lasting effect is that my arms start to ache very quickly if I
hold them above my head eg when changing a lightbulb, and my perception
of distance isn't quite as good as it was. I can still drive, because I
tend to leave a *bigger* gap from the car ahead, so I'm erring on the
side of caution. It was a good feeling to get back in my car and go for
a little drive near home when I got the go-ahead letter from the DVLA
after about 3 months of "don't-drive".
(*) In fact I drink more now than I used to, because it was actually
recommended that I drink a pint of beer or a glass of wine 5 days a week
followed by 2 days "rest", because moderate alcohol is apparently
beneficial. It's a hard medicine but I keep taking it ;-)
(**) Even now, the beta-blocker means my heart rate rarely goes above
about 90 bpm even after heavy exercise, but I don't feel any ill effects
like dizzyness.
Thanks for sharing your story, NY

I'm so pleased to learn of the happy ending.

Good luck in 2022. :-D
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 18:26:42 UTC
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[....]
Post by Frank
I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years. They can even add
another on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina. In work up f=
or
Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are st=
ill
Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they foun=
d
Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
arteries blocked. Next week he is having open heart to both replac=
e the
Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
valve and bypass the arteries. That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. =E2=9D=A4=EF=B8=8F
Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)
It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!
Not in my opinion. Maybe you've never seen anyone whose quality
of life is near zero but is still alive. Bedridden, feeding tube, can'=
t
talk, can't move. Perhaps a person who has been that way for years
with zero chance of ever improving.
If death is the alternative to that, I'll take death in a second. Not =
just
for me, but for the people who will have to clean me, feed me, keep
me "alive".
In the UK, people are paying =C2=A310,000 to go to Switzerland to die. =
And if a relative goes with them, they get arrested when they return!
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 18:27:10 UTC
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[....]
Post by Frank
I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years. They can even add
another on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina. In work up =
for
Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are s=
till
Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they fou=
nd
Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
arteries blocked. Next week he is having open heart to both repla=
ce
Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
the
valve and bypass the arteries. That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. =E2=9D=A4=EF=B8=8F
Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)
It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!=
Not in my opinion. Maybe you've never seen anyone whose quality
of life is near zero but is still alive. Bedridden, feeding tube, can=
't
talk, can't move. Perhaps a person who has been that way for years
with zero chance of ever improving.
If death is the alternative to that, I'll take death in a second. Not=
just
for me, but for the people who will have to clean me, feed me, keep
me "alive".
Yeah, I wont be handing around if I cant feed myself, wipe my arse and=
walk around anymore. Won't be bothering with a nursing home either.
How would you top yourself?
Rod Speed
2022-01-03 18:57:22 UTC
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Post by David Brooks
Post by Frank
I think the cow valve is good for 10-15 years. They can even add
another on top of it if needed.
Fifteen years ago I needed cardiac stents for angina. In work up for
TAVR they did CT with die to check cardiac arteries and they are still
clear which was nice to learn.
I know of a guy that needs a new valve but working him up they found
arteries blocked. Next week he is having open heart to both replace the
valve and bypass the arteries. That is a big deal.
It IS a big deal - I wish him well. ❤️
Good luck to you, too, Frank (and to your olther half as well!)
It's no fun getting old - but it is far better than the alternative!
Not in my opinion. Maybe you've never seen anyone whose quality
of life is near zero but is still alive. Bedridden, feeding tube, can't
talk, can't move. Perhaps a person who has been that way for years
with zero chance of ever improving.
If death is the alternative to that, I'll take death in a second. Not
just
for me, but for the people who will have to clean me, feed me, keep
me "alive".
Yeah, I wont be handing around if I cant feed myself, wipe my arse and
walk around anymore. Won't be bothering with a nursing home either.
How would you top yourself?
Lots of easy ways. Simplest is to drink nembutal. Almost as easy to breath
helium.

While you can no longer put a pipe from your car exhaust into the
car, you can still put a small engine like a generator into the car.

I can shoot myself.

Hanging is still available.
Peeler
2022-01-03 19:24:35 UTC
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 05:57:22 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>
--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

Birdbrain: "But imagine how cool it was to own slaves."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, right. Feed them, clothe them, and fix them when
they're broken.
After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
on them all the time."

Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

MID: <***@mid.individual.net>
rbowman
2021-12-30 18:48:18 UTC
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Post by David Brooks
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
If he believes the stuff he is repeating and not
actual science papers, he is indeed a fool.
Post by David Brooks
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster
to help keep other folk safe too. :-D
David,
Those jabs and boosters are not protect other folks
from you. Zero. The infection rates are the same
for jab and no jab. The spread is the same too.
And the virus load is the same jab or no jab.
I posted legitimate science/medical papers to prove
this, but you obviously did not read them.
And you may not even be protecting yourself either.
here is a graph showing all causes of death for
jab and non jab.
https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screen-Shot-2021-11-26-at-7.42.29-PM.png
Note how fast you lose protection.
Be damned careful. If you show covid symptoms, seek
help immediately!
-T
Our paper today said that our hospitals in Delaware are clogged with
covid patients and 78% are unvaccinated.
Is it like Vermont?

https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/22/covid-positive-vermonters-with-no-symptoms-clog-up-ers/

Wait until 500 million 'free' tests hit the streets.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:18:11 UTC
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Post by T
Post by David Brooks
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
If he believes the stuff he is repeating and not
actual science papers, he is indeed a fool.
Post by David Brooks
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
David,
Those jabs and boosters are not protect other folks
from you. Zero. The infection rates are the same
for jab and no jab. The spread is the same too.
And the virus load is the same jab or no jab.
I posted legitimate science/medical papers to prove
this, but you obviously did not read them.
And you may not even be protecting yourself either.
here is a graph showing all causes of death for
jab and non jab.
https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screen-Shot-2021-11-26-at-7.42.29-PM.png
Note how fast you lose protection.
Be damned careful. If you show covid symptoms, seek
help immediately!
-T
You should make up your mind. You've been with the crazy Republicans all
along, who claimed Covid was just a cold or the flu. Now you're recommending
that anyone that has symptoms should seek help? What is the "help" going to
do if you have mild symptoms? AFAIK, they tell you to stay home, isolate to the
extent possible, take NSAIDs if needed for fever and only seek medical help if
it gets bad. The correct advice would be to go get tested if you have symptoms
and are going to be around others, where you can't isolate, so that you can prevent
infecting others. Wrong again.
1 in 1000 chance of dying. Grow a pair of balls.
Commander Kinsey
2021-12-30 22:10:40 UTC
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Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative. Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL. And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab! And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!
-T
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
Why do you not trust in god to keep others safe? Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Fredxx
2021-12-30 23:39:10 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:39:18 -0000, David Brooks
Post by David Brooks
Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative.  Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL.  And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
    Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
     Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab!  And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!
-T
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
Why do you not trust in god to keep others safe?
It is up to individual to believe.
Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
Typically given the thumbs up by religious leaders in various conflicts.

Who created the devil?

Did god create Onchocerca volvulus? Or are you going to blame that on
the devil too?
Bob F
2021-12-31 03:44:22 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:39:18 -0000, David Brooks
Post by David Brooks
Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative.  Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL.  And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
    Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
     Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab!  And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!
-T
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
Why do you not trust in god to keep others safe?
It is up to individual to believe.
Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
And ignorance is one of his favorite tools.
T
2021-12-31 09:37:50 UTC
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Post by Bob F
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:39:18 -0000, David Brooks
Post by David Brooks
Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative.  Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL.  And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
    Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
     Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated
individuals in
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab!  And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!
-T
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
Why do you not trust in god to keep others safe?
It is up to individual to believe.
Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
And ignorance is one of his favorite tools.
Indeed.
"Benefits of Vaccination Outweigh the Risks"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
Good vaccines, yes. Bad vaccines, no. The goal
is to tell them apart. Good vaccines have saved
countless lives.

And when Lysenkoism (polemically dictated scientific
outcomes) are involved, there is a lot of covering
of one's ass.

I do not trust anything out of this politically
compromised CDC. I look to independent science and
medical journals, not a bunch of politically correct
suck ups whose careers depend on it, lest they
get "canceled".

We never, never, never should have removed the
spread sheet line from the bottom line for
compensations and law suites. Lawyers serve
a purpose, well sometimes.

And Fauci needs to get his lying ass fired. But
it will never happen as long as he follows the
Brandon administration's narratives.

The Big Government / big Pharma complex nee
Rod Speed
2022-01-02 18:28:50 UTC
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Post by Bob F
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:39:18 -0000, David Brooks
Post by David Brooks
Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative. Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL. And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab! And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!
-T
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr
David
Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
Why do you not trust in god to keep others safe?
It is up to individual to believe.
Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
And ignorance is one of his favorite tools.
Indeed.
"Benefits of Vaccination Outweigh the Risks"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
Good vaccines, yes. Bad vaccines, no. The goal
is to tell them apart. Good vaccines have saved
countless lives.
And when Lysenkoism (polemically dictated scientific
outcomes) are involved, there is a lot of covering
of one's ass.
I do not trust anything out of this politically
compromised CDC.
Right, so those vaccines were great things when developed, tested and
approved during the Trump administration, but now they are no good.
We can see they're no good, the death rate isn't falling.
It has fallen dramatically in places which are highly vaccinated.
T
2021-12-31 17:26:19 UTC
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A man was stranded on his rooftop in rapidly rising floodwaters.
He prayed to God to rescue him.
A neighbor in canoe paddled over. The neighbor told him to jump in the
boat to safety.
The stranded man refused.
“I’m OK,” he said. “I am praying to God to save me.”
The neighbor paddled on.
Next a motorboat came by.  The man at the helm urged him to get in.
But the man on the roof refused.
“I am praying to God to save me,” he replied.
So, the motorboat moved on.
Finally, a helicopter flew overhead. The pilot threw down a rope and
directed the man to grab it.
“I will pull you to safety,” he said.
But the man refused.
“I am praying to God to save me,” he responded.
So, the helicopter flew on.
Soon after, the flood water completely engulfed the roof and the man
drowned.
In Heaven he questioned God about the circumstances of his death.
“God, I prayed to you. I had faith you would save me. Why did you let me
drown?”
God’ s answer was simple.
“Did you not see how I answered your prayers? I sent you a rowboat, a
motorboat and a helicopter.”
Hi Bob,

Indee
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-02 15:15:34 UTC
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A man was stranded on his rooftop in rapidly rising floodwaters.
He prayed to God to rescue him.
A neighbor in canoe paddled over. The neighbor told him to jump in th=
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boat to safety.
The stranded man refused.
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The neighbor paddled on.
Next a motorboat came by. The man at the helm urged him to get in.
But the man on the roof refused.
=E2=80=9CI am praying to God to save me,=E2=80=9D he replied.
So, the motorboat moved on.
Finally, a helicopter flew overhead. The pilot threw down a rope and
directed the man to grab it.
=E2=80=9CI will pull you to safety,=E2=80=9D he said.
But the man refused.
=E2=80=9CI am praying to God to save me,=E2=80=9D he responded.
So, the helicopter flew on.
Soon after, the flood water completely engulfed the roof and the man
drowned.
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you let me
Post by T
drown?=E2=80=9D
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motorboat and a helicopter.=E2=80=9D
Hi Bob,
Indeed. We are God's arms and legs.
You mean slaves. God is a cunt.
David Brooks
2022-01-02 15:27:29 UTC
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Post by T
A man was stranded on his rooftop in rapidly rising floodwaters.
He prayed to God to rescue him.
A neighbor in canoe paddled over. The neighbor told him to jump in the
boat to safety.
The stranded man refused.
“I’m OK,” he said. “I am praying to God to save me.”
The neighbor paddled on.
Next a motorboat came by.  The man at the helm urged him to get in.
But the man on the roof refused.
“I am praying to God to save me,” he replied.
So, the motorboat moved on.
Finally, a helicopter flew overhead. The pilot threw down a rope and
directed the man to grab it.
“I will pull you to safety,” he said.
But the man refused.
“I am praying to God to save me,” he responded.
So, the helicopter flew on.
Soon after, the flood water completely engulfed the roof and the man
drowned.
In Heaven he questioned God about the circumstances of his death.
“God, I prayed to you. I had faith you would save me. Why did you let me
drown?”
God’ s answer was simple.
“Did you not see how I answered your prayers? I sent you a rowboat, a
motorboat and a helicopter.”
Hi Bob,
     Indeed.  We are God's arms and legs.
You mean slaves.  God is a cunt.
Educate yourself, moron!

http://forgottenword.org/commentaries/murray_within.pdf
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-02 15:14:54 UTC
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Post by Bob F
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:39:18 -0000, David Brooks
Post by David Brooks
Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative. Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL. And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated
individuals in
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab! And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!
-T
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
Why do you not trust in god to keep others safe?
It is up to individual to believe.
Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
And ignorance is one of his favorite tools.
Indeed.
"Benefits of Vaccination Outweigh the Risks"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
You're missing the point, they're unnecessary. The black death killed 1 in 3 people. Covid is less than 1 in 1000.
NotX
2021-12-31 17:13:14 UTC
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On 12/30/21 16:42, David Brooks wrote:

[snip]
Post by Commander Kinsey
Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
Believers say God is all powerful. Then they deny it.

It's an incoherent belief system.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-02 15:16:01 UTC
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Post by NotX
[snip]
Post by Commander Kinsey
Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
Believers say God is all powerful. Then they deny it.
It's an incoherent belief system.
They make up answers to fit the questions, just like a 6 year old with an imaginary friend.
rbowman
2022-01-02 17:38:14 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
Post by NotX
[snip]
Post by Commander Kinsey
Why do you still believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
Believers say God is all powerful. Then they deny it.
It's an incoherent belief system.
They make up answers to fit the questions, just like a 6 year old with an imaginary friend.
"If God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish Him."

Mikhail Bakunin
Peeler
2022-01-03 13:28:36 UTC
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 10:38:14 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
Post by rbowman
"If God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish Him."
I suppose that would be a lot easier than to make YOU shut your endlessly
blathering senile gob, gossip girl!
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"My family loaded me into a '51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in '52. I'm alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going."
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Commander Kinsey
2022-01-02 15:13:23 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
Post by David Brooks
Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative. Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL. And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
And the viral load of the infected jabbed is the same as
Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2
delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
So if you have a co-morbidity, STAY AWAY FROM
EVERYONE, jab or no jab! And if you get symptoms,
GET HELP IMMEDIATELY!
-T
I've just spent more than an hour reviewing the website of Mr David Ross
and can assure you that he is no fool!
I trust in God to keep me safe but have had my two jabs and a booster to
help keep other folk safe too. :-D
Why do you not trust in god to keep others safe?
It is up to individual to believe.
So non-believers he doesn't care about? What an egotistical maniac.
Post by Commander Kinsey
Why do you still
believe in god when he's allowed millions to die?
Killing people is the Devil's work.
Then god is failing in his duty and not worthy of worship.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 20:44:07 UTC
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Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative. Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
If he thinks he is safe only around the jabbed,
HE IS A FOOL. And I can provide evidence to back
up that statement.
There is no difference in transmission in either
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
Interesting that the authors and you can't see what I see. Look at
figure 2. There is a clear downward trend there, the higher the vaccination
rate, the lower the level of new cases.
Why are you looking at cases instead of deaths?
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 20:45:02 UTC
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Post by T
Post by David Brooks
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Hi David,
The guy provided no evidence in the form of medical
paper to back up his narrative. Zero cites.
It is baseless opinion.
Right, just like someone stating that the earth revolves around
the sun need to provide citations for that. Everything he said
is supported by volumes of data from not only the USA, but from
around the world and is agreed to be the overwhelming majority
of scientists in the fields and doctors around the world.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Post by T
There is no difference in transmission in either
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
Look at the graphs in your own above source. They show otherwise.
Figure 2 shows a clear downward trend in infections vs percentage
vaccinated. Figure 3, the last three bars with the highest vaccination
rates, 60%, 65%, 70%+, have the lowest infection rates. Are you as
blind as those fool authors?
You're repeating yourself.
Peeler
2021-12-30 09:40:29 UTC
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FYI
Commandeer Kinsey should read here:-
WHY should he, when he can have so much fun baiting the senile idiots on
these ngs time and again, even when they learned already what he's about?
<tsk>
Commander Kinsey
2021-12-30 22:09:35 UTC
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...
Post by Commander Kinsey
Are we going to continue this nonsense forever? They aren't going to
cure it. They didn't cure aids.
They didn't cure Spanish Flu. They did impose restrictions like wearing
face masks and prohibiting public gatherings until it mutated into a
less deadly form - the H1N1 seasonal flu we still see today. Omicron is
a sign that Covid may be going the same way.
FYI
Commandeer Kinsey should read here:-
http://www.rossde.com/index.html
Less than 1 in 1000 people around the world have died of it. Not a cause for concern.
Post by David Brooks
I was saddened to hear about the loss of his neighbour, someone he had
helped and cared for, I'm sure.
I am more saddened the fuckwit government didn't allow her to see her husband in the last 3 weeks of her life.
Peeler
2021-12-30 09:37:36 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 08:24:37 +0000, nightjar, another brain damaged,
They didn't cure Spanish Flu. They did impose restrictions like wearing
face masks and prohibiting public gatherings until it mutated into a
less deadly form - the H1N1 seasonal flu we still see today. Omicron is
a sign that Covid may be going the same way.
...and another senile idiot who couldn't resist taking the clinically insane
Scottish attention whore's latest silly bait! <tsk>
Steve Walker
2021-12-30 11:49:12 UTC
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...
Are we going to continue this nonsense forever?  They aren't going to
cure it.  They didn't cure aids.
They didn't cure Spanish Flu. They did impose restrictions like wearing
face masks and prohibiting public gatherings until it mutated into a
less deadly form - the H1N1 seasonal flu we still see today. Omicron is
a sign that Covid may be going the same way.
A particularly good comparison, as the government did not impose
restrictions, but some cities did. The cities that did had a much lower
total number of deaths.
T
2021-12-30 12:08:33 UTC
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...
Are we going to continue this nonsense forever?  They aren't going to
cure it.  They didn't cure aids.
They didn't cure Spanish Flu. They did impose restrictions like
wearing face masks and prohibiting public gatherings until it mutated
into a less deadly form - the H1N1 seasonal flu we still see today.
Omicron is a sign that Covid may be going the same way.
A particularly good comparison, as the government did not impose
restrictions, but some cities did. The cities that did had a much lower
total number of d
Peeler
2021-12-30 19:14:38 UTC
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 04:57:13 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
--
pamela about Rodent Speed:
"His off the cuff expertise demonstrates how little he knows..."
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Commander Kinsey
2021-12-30 22:12:42 UTC
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Here in the UK it is 12.57
Please check your clock.
Thank you
No no no, it's 10:12pm in the UK.
Peeler
2021-12-30 22:40:23 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 22:18:08 -0000, NY, the really endlessly blathering,
Post by Commander Kinsey
No no no, it's 10:12pm in the UK.
I know the right time. I've got it written down on a piece of paper.
Yeah, you troll-feeding senile asshole, you were still missing on the long
list of idiotic troll-feeding senile assholes who made a big success of yet
another absolutely idiotic thread by the Scottish attention whore! <tsk>
Commander Kinsey
2021-12-31 16:03:38 UTC
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SWMBO runs the Wahl over my head every couple of weeks. Almost a buzz
cut, but the sides are tapered.
Looks good to me; more importantly, to her too. She's the only one I need
to impress with my good looks, and she takes care of that for me. ;-)
What about the rest of us here? We don't count?
Not in the least. The things she rewards me with for my good looks I wouldn't
take from you or anyone else on usenet.
ROTFPMSL!
Commander Kinsey
2021-12-31 16:06:36 UTC
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I even avoid strangers during flu season. Have not been to
a barber in over 2 years
My job (computer consultant) requires that I occasionally
visit (when remote assist does not work) my customer's
workplaces and homes, so I catch every stink' damned
thing our there. It is a real pain in the ass.
My "immune history" is going to be something to behold
and it will probably serve me well into old age.
Dental assistants and teachers are typically sick on
their asses for two years or so. I have yet to catch
up to them.
I caught every cold imaginable through my 4 years at University, what with all the foreign students. My immune system has been boosted by that so I never catch anything. I also swim outdoors in winter which for some strange reason is supposed to boost it.
T
2021-12-31 17:29:16 UTC
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I caught every cold imaginable through my 4 years at University, what with all the foreign students.
How many years did it take you to stop being
sick
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:27:03 UTC
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I even avoid strangers during flu season. Have not been to
a barber in over 2 years
My job (computer consultant) requires that I occasionally
visit (when remote assist does not work) my customer's
workplaces and homes, so I catch every stink' damned
thing our there. It is a real pain in the ass.
My "immune history" is going to be something to behold
and it will probably serve me well into old age.
Dental assistants and teachers are typically sick on
their asses for two years or so. I have yet to catch
up to them.
I caught every cold imaginable through my 4 years at University, what
with all the foreign students. My immune system has been boosted by
that so I never catch anything. I also swim outdoors in winter which
for some strange reason is supposed to boost it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-try-wim-hof-method-cold-exposure-training-2018-1?op=1
Wow, look at the pansy screwing up his face. Cold is quite comfortable, not sure why people hate it.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2021-12-27/jean-marc-vallee-cause-of-death-heart-attack
It doesn't mention if he was fully vaccinated.
It also mentions the Wim Hof method as though that causes heart attacks. It does not.
Commander Kinsey
2021-12-31 16:08:03 UTC
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What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
The restrictions have been too lax or have been ignored. People aren't as
smart as Libertarians would like to think.
I've been avoiding people since the start of the pandemic. I got the vaccine
as soon as it was available to my age group. My behavior seems to have kept
me from contracting COVID.
I have been doing the same but relaxed my dilligence a little and
went shopping - masked - at a major grocery warehouse for christmas
I'm booked for the third shot in 2 weeks but apparently picked up a
case of Omicron. Not confirmed due to testing issues - to get tested
you have to line up with all kinds of others including unvaccinated
with Delta - IF you can get a test.
So far basically like a bad cold but with headache. My wife is
coughing worse than I am and is generally just TIRED. Hopefully by the
new year we will be back on track - - -
You'll be fine, just like every single person I know who's had it. A couple of days in bed with a bad cold then it's gone.
Peeler
2021-12-31 16:26:03 UTC
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>
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Another typical retarded conversation between our two village idiots,
Birdbrain and Rodent Speed:

Birdbrain: "You beat me to it. Plain sex is boring."

Senile Rodent: "Then fuck the cats. That wont be boring."

Birdbrain: "Sell me a de-clawing tool first."

Senile Rodent: "Wont help with the teeth."

Birdbrain: "They've never gone for me with their mouths."

Rodent Speed: "They will if you are stupid enough to try fucking them."

Birdbrain: "No, they always use claws."

Rodent Speed: "They wont if you try fucking them. Try it and see."

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Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 20:46:06 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who
restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to
protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
The restrictions have been too lax or have been ignored. People aren't as
smart as Libertarians would like to think.
I've been avoiding people since the start of the pandemic. I got the vaccine
as soon as it was available to my age group. My behavior seems to have kept
me from contracting COVID.
I have been doing the same but relaxed my dilligence a little and
went shopping - masked - at a major grocery warehouse for christmas
I'm booked for the third shot in 2 weeks but apparently picked up a
case of Omicron. Not confirmed due to testing issues - to get tested
you have to line up with all kinds of others including unvaccinated
with Delta - IF you can get a test.
So far basically like a bad cold but with headache. My wife is coughing
worse than I am and is generally just TIRED. Hopefully by the new year we
will be back on track - - -
You'll be fine, just like every single person I know who's had it. A
couple of days in bed with a bad cold then it's gone.
Not what happened with Boris, or the ones it has killed.
Boris is still alive and governing a country. I don't know anyone it's killed. Are you making the classic schoolboy error of finding a small number of cases on the news and believing the media hype that it's a significant proportion of the population?
Commander Kinsey
2021-12-31 16:08:46 UTC
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What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
The restrictions have been too lax or have been ignored. People aren't as
smart as Libertarians would like to think.
I've been avoiding people since the start of the pandemic. I got the vaccine
as soon as it was available to my age group. My behavior seems to have kept
me from contracting COVID.
Cindy Hamilton
I have been doing the same but relaxed my dilligence a little and
went shopping - masked - at a major grocery warehouse for christmas
I'm booked for the third shot in 2 weeks but apparently picked up a
case of Omicron. Not confirmed due to testing issues - to get tested
you have to line up with all kinds of others including unvaccinated
with Delta - IF you can get a test.
So far basically like a bad cold but with headache. My wife is
coughing worse than I am and is generally just TIRED. Hopefully by the
new year we will be back on track - - -
I wish you all the best.
Not doubting you, but why do you say "picked a case of Omicron" and not
just "picked a case of Covid"? Why do you think it's any particular variant?
SWMBO works in the health care arena and goes to work everyday. Masks
are not always worn by co-workers or clients and cases have sprung up
at some of the places (group homes) that she has to visit. Therefore...
We get tested once a week. The process couldn't be simpler. We drive over to
our town's maintenance complex, stay in our vehicle and pull into one of the big
garages. A worker with laptop on a cart comes over, takes our ID's, looks us
up in the county database and logs us in. (S)he hands us a couple of swaps,
we twirl them around in our nostrils and hand them back. No paperwork, no
exposure to other test-getters. This is open to the public, i.e. we're not getting
any special treatment based on her job.
If we're positive, we'll supposedly get a call within the hour. If we're negative,
we get an email later that evening. We usually go as soon as they open at 5PM
and get our emails by 9.
No vaccines for me, no tests for me, no masks for me. I'm still here.
T
2021-12-31 17:28:10 UTC
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I don't get someone to shave my face for me, why would I get my hair cut for me?
Hmmm, bec
T
2021-12-31 17:39:37 UTC
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And you're free to do so, but don't expect me to panic over something that's killed less than 1 in 1000.
I just walked into B&Q (a UK home repair shop) with no mask.  Every other customer and member of staff was wearing one, but not one person challenged me.  It's become like speeding, it's technically illegal, but most people don't give a shit if you do it.
For some reason your posts are not automatically scrolling
in Thunderbird.

Virtually no one wears masks around her (Nevada) unless
the governor makes a mandate. Everyone is aware they
do nothing to stop the spread of anything.

I will wear a mask in the mandated places only
because the governor will fine the businesses
and they are my neighbors and I don't want to
hurt them.

Some morality: if you do not "conform" to me, I
will do nothing to you, I will just hurt your
neighbor.

When I visit a customer's house of business, I wear
my mask, but ask them if they want me in a mask.
They always laugh and say no. It is the polite
thing to do and some folks are indeed frightened
to death over the covid thing.

Have you noticed that there are so many other ways
to save many more lives that this covid stuff?
Early screening for cancer and heart disease would
save a lot more lives. Clamping down on drunk
drivers would go a long ways too. The common
cold will kill those with a co-morbidity too,
but they only seem to care about covid.

Protect those at risk and leave the rest of us
th
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2022-01-01 12:39:49 UTC
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Have you noticed that there are so many other ways
to save many more lives that this covid stuff?
Early screening for cancer and heart disease would
save a lot more lives. Clamping down on drunk
drivers would go a long ways too. The common
cold will kill those with a co-morbidity too,
but they only seem to care about covid.
Remind us of how many Covid deaths there have been in your country?
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Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:31:32 UTC
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Post by T
Have you noticed that there are so many other ways
to save many more lives that this covid stuff?
Early screening for cancer and heart disease would
save a lot more lives. Clamping down on drunk
drivers would go a long ways too. The common
cold will kill those with a co-morbidity too,
but they only seem to care about covid.
Remind us of how many Covid deaths there have been in your country?
Which country would that be? You only posted to a uk group.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:28:45 UTC
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And you're free to do so, but don't expect me to panic over something that's killed less than 1 in 1000.
I just walked into B&Q (a UK home repair shop) with no mask. Every other customer and member of staff was wearing one, but not one person challenged me. It's become like speeding, it's technically illegal, but most people don't give a shit if you do it.
For some reason your posts are not automatically scrolling
in Thunderbird.
Better talk to thunderbird then.
Post by T
Virtually no one wears masks around her (Nevada) unless
the governor makes a mandate. Everyone is aware they
do nothing to stop the spread of anything.
I will wear a mask in the mandated places only
because the governor will fine the businesses
and they are my neighbors and I don't want to
hurt them.
Some morality: if you do not "conform" to me, I
will do nothing to you, I will just hurt your
neighbor.
When I visit a customer's house of business, I wear
my mask, but ask them if they want me in a mask.
They always laugh and say no. It is the polite
thing to do and some folks are indeed frightened
to death over the covid thing.
I wait until they force me to wear one.
Post by T
Have you noticed that there are so many other ways
to save many more lives that this covid stuff?
Early screening for cancer and heart disease would
save a lot more lives.
Agreed.

Clamping down on drunk
Post by T
drivers would go a long ways too.
Not agreed. I can drive better drunk than most can drive sober.
Post by T
The common
cold will kill those with a co-morbidity too,
but they only seem to care about covid.
Protect those at risk and leave the rest of us
the hell alone.
Indeed.
Peeler
2021-12-31 17:49:12 UTC
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 10:34:33 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
I got a haircut a while back. I think it was around '96 or so.
What sick shit is this about again, senile shithead?
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"My family loaded me into a '51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in '52. I'm alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going."
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Commander Kinsey
2022-01-02 19:00:58 UTC
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Are we going to continue this nonsense forever?
this is just the start.
The only answer can be it was a government test of compliance. You all failed miserably. You are a name not a number, never forget that.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-02 22:13:11 UTC
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 3:59:32 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who
restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to
protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
Bullshit. Both Taiwan and New Zeeland got
a vastly better result in death per million.
And there you have it, you're measuring in deaths PER MILLION - so utterly insignificant.
<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
Pretty daft to use a sock then put a standard Rod Speed cut and paste in there.

Maybe you should make seamless socks?
John
2022-01-02 23:31:47 UTC
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 3:59:32 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who
restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to
protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
Bullshit. Both Taiwan and New Zeeland got
a vastly better result in death per million.
And there you have it, you're measuring in deaths PER MILLION - so utterly insignificant.
<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
Maybe you should make seamless socks?
Don't need to, I buy them.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 00:04:51 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 3:59:32 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who
restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to
protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
Bullshit. Both Taiwan and New Zeeland got
a vastly better result in death per million.
And there you have it, you're measuring in deaths PER MILLION - so utterly insignificant.
<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
Maybe you should make seamless socks?
Don't need to, I buy them.
Then sell some to Rod, his are of low quality.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 00:05:42 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 3:59:32 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who
restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to
protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
Bullshit. Both Taiwan and New Zeeland got
a vastly better result in death per million.
And there you have it, you're measuring in deaths PER MILLION - so utterly insignificant.
<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
Maybe you should make seamless socks?
Don't need to, I buy them.
Fuck, I just spoke to your sock as though it wasn't you. I'll blame the drink.

Hang on, you knit socks, and you don't like the idea of marriage. I reckon you're a gayboy.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:44:32 UTC
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Post by John
Post by Commander Kinsey
On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 3:59:32 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who
restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to
protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
Bullshit. Both Taiwan and New Zeeland got
a vastly better result in death per million.
And there you have it, you're measuring in deaths PER MILLION - so
utterly
insignificant.
<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
Maybe you should make seamless socks?
Don't need to, I buy them.
Hang on, you knit socks,
Nope.
How do you create them then?
Post by Commander Kinsey
I reckon you're a gayboy.
Says the poof that shaves its legs.
Why does that imply homosexuality?

Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 16:54:17 UTC
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You will still catch Covid and with the same severity
with the jab. The data out of Briton does not support
the narrative the it will only be mild.
Who is this Briton that you keep talking about?
Briton (noun)
1. a citizen or native of Great Britain.
a person of British descent.
2. one of the people of southern Britain before and during Roman times.
He or she must be an important figure in the scientific community.
Grow up you silly grammarian.
Peeler
2022-01-03 17:10:37 UTC
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:54:17 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven Wanker","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

<FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
attention-baiting sick bullshit unread again>
--
damduck-***@yahoo.co.uk about Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL)
trolling:
"He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you
make feeds him.
Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone
with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to
the US groups for a new audience.
This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him
to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get
noticed again."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
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ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"You're an annoying troll and I'm done with you and your
stupidity."
MID: <e39a6a7f-9677-4e78-a866-***@googlegroups.com>
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AndyW addressing Birdbrain:
"Troll or idiot?...
You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning,
historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully
ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information."
MID: <KaToA.263621$***@fx10.am4>
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Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
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Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I've never seen such misplaced pride in being a fucking moronic motorist."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
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Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class
ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in
mental institution.
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Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw:
"Ok. I'm persuaded . You are an idiot."
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DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread."
MID: <4d907253-b3b9-40d4-be4d-***@googlegroups.com>
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Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey LOL):
"It's like arguing with a demented frog."
MID: <***@dell3100.workgroup>
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Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"the piss poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
several parrots living in his hovel."
MID: <odqtgc$iug$***@dont-email.me>
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Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
"He's a perennial idiot"
MID: <***@Mars>
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JoeyDee to Birdbrain
"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments."
MID: <***@news.eternal-september.org>
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Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be."
MID: <***@brightview.co.uk>
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***@gmail.com asking Birdbrain:
"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?"
MID: <58ddfad5-d9a5-4031-b91f-***@googlegroups.com>
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Christie addressing endlessly driveling Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander
Kinsey" LOL):
"What are you resurrecting that old post of mine for? It's from last
month some time. You're like a dog who's just dug up an old bone they
hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it."
MID: <***@news.eternal-september.org>
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Mr Pounder's fitting description of Birdbrain Macaw:
"You are a well known fool, a tosser, a pillock, a stupid unemployable
sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not
be missed."
MID: <orree6$on2$***@dont-email.me>
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Richard to pathetic wanker Hucker:
"You haven't bred?
Only useful thing you've done in your pathetic existence."
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***@snyder.on.ca about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
""not the sharpest knife in the drawer"'s parents sure made a serious
mistake having him born alive -- A total waste of oxygen, food, space,
and bandwidth."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
--
Mr Pounder exposing sociopathic Birdbrain:
"You will always be a lonely sociopath living in a shithole with no hot
running water with loads of stinking cats and a few parrots."
MID: <os5m1i$8m1$***@dont-email.me>
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francis about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"He seems to have a reputation as someone of limited intelligence"
MID: <cf06cdd9-8bb8-469c-800a-***@googlegroups.com>
--
Peter Moylan about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"If people like JWS didn't exist, we would have to find some other way to
explain the concept of "invincible ignorance"."
MID: <otofc8$tbg$***@dont-email.me>
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Lewis about nym-shifting Birdbrain:
"Typical narcissist troll, thinks his shit is so grand he has the right to
try to force it on everyone."<FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest
trollshit unread>
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Max Demian
2022-01-03 17:42:45 UTC
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Who is this Briton that you keep talking about?
Briton (noun)
1. a citizen or native of Great Britain.
    a person of British descent.
2. one of the people of southern Britain before and during Roman times.
What the dictionaries I've consulted fail to acknowledge is that, apart
from the woad-painted ancient variety, only newspapers refer to an
inhabitant of Britain as a Briton. There isn't a word for it used in
normal conversation; "Britisher" appears to be a US invention and "Brit"
an IRA one (as in "Brits out").
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Peeler
2022-01-03 18:36:45 UTC
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 17:42:45 +0000, Max Dumb, the REAL dumb, notorious,
Post by Max Demian
What the dictionaries I've consulted fail to acknowledge
You failed to consult the Usenet etiquette which tells you, "DON'T FEED THE
TROLL", you mentally deficient troll-feeding senile asshole!
Peeler
2022-01-03 19:28:51 UTC
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 05:32:18 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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cretin's pathological trolling:
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Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 16:55:16 UTC
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The restrictions have not been shown to help.
The restrictions have been too lax or have been ignored. People aren't as
smart as Libertarians would like to think.
Hi Cindy,
Not in Europe, where a lot of governments have forced
the issue with authoritarianism. The only thing
positive was about a two week delay for their hospitals
to catch up. I have seen the documentation, but forgot
to bookmark it.
I've been avoiding people since the start of the pandemic. I got the vaccine
as soon as it was available to my age group.
You will still catch Covid and with the same severity
with the jab.
The whopping lie that is killing people repeated.
+1 Statistics say otherwise. Yes, this variation is milder, etc, but
still many more unvaccinated in the hospitals.
Meantime, you won't see me on a cruise, at a concert or ballgame.
There was a cruise liner at the start of all this, where everyone caught it. 80% didn't even show symptoms. Just let evolution take care of it.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 16:57:07 UTC
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The restrictions have not been shown to help.
The restrictions have been too lax or have been ignored. People aren't as
smart as Libertarians would like to think.
Hi Cindy,
Not in Europe, where a lot of governments have forced
the issue with authoritarianism. The only thing
positive was about a two week delay for their hospitals
to catch up. I have seen the documentation, but forgot
to bookmark it.
I've been avoiding people since the start of the pandemic. I got the vaccine
as soon as it was available to my age group.
You will still catch Covid and with the same severity
with the jab. The data out of Briton does not support
the narrative the it will only be mild.
My behavior seems to have kept me from contracting COVID.
Masks have been shown not to work. Social distancing have also been
shown to be ridiculous.
And hilarious. I was watching a queue for a supermarket back when they were even more fussy. Everyone was queueing up outside 2m apart. One man got a little too close to a silly old woman who began a argument with him. He said "I never touched you!" She said "You're too close!" So I walked over and made sure to breath on her saying "but now you're even closer, and your yelling is spreading it further."
T
2022-01-03 17:48:14 UTC
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Masks have been shown not to work.  Social distancing have also been
shown to be ridiculous.
And hilarious.  I was watching a queue for a supermarket back when they were even more fussy.  Everyone was queueing up outside 2m apart.  One man got a little too close to a silly old woman who began a argument with him.  He said "I never touched you!"  She said "You're too close!"  So I walked over and made sure to breath on her saying "but now you're even closer, and your yelling is spreading it further."
The studies I have read, it is far m
Rod Speed
2022-01-03 18:18:53 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
Masks have been shown not to work. Social distancing have also been
shown to be ridiculous.
More of your lies.
Post by Commander Kinsey
And hilarious. I was watching a queue for a supermarket back when they
were even more fussy. Everyone was queueing up outside 2m apart. One
man got a little too close to a silly old woman who began a argument with
him. He said "I never touched you!" She said "You're too close!" So I
walked over and made sure to breath on her saying "but now you're even
closer, and your yelling is spreading it further."
The studies I have read, it is far more effective just to open a window.
Then you need to read better studys, as always.
Peeler
2022-01-03 18:31:13 UTC
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 05:18:53 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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FredXX to Rodent Speed:
"You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder
we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity
and criminality is inherited after all?"
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Peeler
2022-01-03 18:30:51 UTC
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:48:14 -0800, T(wit), another miserable troll-feeding
The studies I have read, it is far more effective just
to open a window.
Ever read the saying on Usenet: "DON'T FEED THE TROLL", troll-feeding senile
asshole?
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 20:47:10 UTC
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What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
The restrictions have been too lax or have been ignored. People aren't as
smart as Libertarians would like to think.
I've been avoiding people since the start of the pandemic. I got the vaccine
as soon as it was available to my age group. My behavior seems to have kept
me from contracting COVID.
And you're free to do so, but don't expect me to panic over something that's killed less than 1 in 1000.
I just walked into B&Q (a UK home repair shop) with no mask. Every other customer and member of staff was wearing one, but not one person challenged me. It's become like speeding, it's technically illegal, but most people don't give a shit if you do it.
Just because no one challenged you doesn't mean they didn't give a shit.
If they gave s hit they'd try to get me to wear one.
I wouldn't have challenged you unless you tried to sit next to me and stood
near me in line. Keep your distance and I won't say anything.
And what if you worked there?
Others may
just walk away, others may keep their thoughts inside. None of that means
that they don't give a shit.
Come near me and you'll know (as will many others in the vicinity) that I do.
And I'll cough all over you.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 20:48:03 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
The restrictions have been too lax or have been ignored. People aren't as
smart as Libertarians would like to think.
I've been avoiding people since the start of the pandemic. I got the vaccine
as soon as it was available to my age group. My behavior seems to have kept
me from contracting COVID.
And you're free to do so, but don't expect me to panic over something that's killed less than 1 in 1000.
I just walked into B&Q (a UK home repair shop) with no mask. Every other customer and member of staff was wearing one, but not one person challenged me. It's become like speeding, it's technically illegal, but most people don't give a shit if you do it.
Just because no one challenged you doesn't mean they didn't give a shit.
I wouldn't have challenged you unless you tried to sit next to me and stood
near me in line. Keep your distance and I won't say anything. Others may
just walk away, others may keep their thoughts inside. None of that means
that they don't give a shit.
Come near me and you'll know (as will many others in the vicinity) that I do.
He clearly paid no attention to the people moving away wherever he went.
Nobody did.
I moved aside from the line I was in at the auto parts store when an
unmasked man walked up right behind me. When my turn came and I was at
the counter, he came up immediately beside me to look at something. I
then told him to move away, which he did do.
I would have coughed over you.
Anyone violating the mask rules is clearly a major threat, because they
don't care if they infect people or themselves. With Omicron, they are
all likely to be infected soon.
Stop being such a pathetic pansy.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:19:18 UTC
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What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow
It's "anyway".
to protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
+1
The conservative nuts are now attacking the NYC police because they were
called to a restaurant where parents with a 5 year old where they did not
have vaccine cards, would not be allowed in. The nuts claim this was awful,
that the cops terrorized the kid, it's all their fault. Actually, the fault clearly
lies with the parents. They likely knew the NYC requirements and if not, the
restaurant told them that you can't come in unless you have proof of vaccination.
They refused to leave, they chose to turn this into a big scene, likely they
planned it ahead of time to have their 15 minutes of fame.
So the cops forced them to leave. What was the restaurant supposed to do?
Ignore the order and risk heavy fines? What were the police supposed to do?
Ignore the order and the request of the restaurant? If the cops let them stay,
30 minutes later the NYC health dept could show up and fine the restaurant.
Stupid laws should be ignored.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:19:59 UTC
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What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help. This
is about control and power now. Maybe in the
beginning not. But now for sure. It is training
to get the individual to accept the state's
will.
Typical. The mandates, eg masks and vaccination aren't because those
imposing them believe the science that shows they work, that it will help
reduce infection, hospitalizations and death in a worldwide pandemic,
no, it's just because they want to force people to do things. This is
Qanon level stupid..
It's because they're stupid. They're the same type that think using your headlights during the day makes the roads safer.
Vir Campestris
2022-01-03 21:42:49 UTC
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The only stupid person is the one who thinks that daytime running lights
doesn't save life.
My car is too old for DRLs.

I don't want to drive with the headlights on - they pop up, and wreck
the aerodynamics.

It's against the law to drive on sides or fogs.

Andy
Bob F
2022-01-03 21:44:30 UTC
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 3:59:32 PM UTC-5, Commander
Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who
restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to
protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out
there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help. This
is about control and power now. Maybe in the
beginning not. But now for sure. It is training
to get the individual to accept the state's
will.
Typical.  The mandates, eg masks and vaccination aren't because those
imposing them believe the science that shows they work, that it will help
reduce infection, hospitalizations and death in a worldwide pandemic,
no, it's just because they want to force people to do things.   This is
Qanon level stupid..
It's because they're stupid.  They're the same type that think using
your headlights during the day makes the roads safer.
The only stupid person is the one who thinks that daytime running lights
doesn't save life.
But the righties here are at the level of people that think nighttime
lights do not save lives.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:21:23 UTC
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Post by Commander Kinsey
What annoys me is how many people continue to vote for people who restrict their freedoms.
The alleged restrictions on freedoms are what I would do anyhow to protect myself.
A pity there are so many stupid people with no self-discipline out there.
Cindy Hamilton
The restrictions have not been shown to help.
The restrictions have been too lax or have been ignored. People aren't as
smart as Libertarians would like to think.
I've been avoiding people since the start of the pandemic. I got the vaccine
as soon as it was available to my age group. My behavior seems to have kept
me from contracting COVID.
Cindy Hamilton
I have been doing the same but relaxed my dilligence a little and
went shopping - masked - at a major grocery warehouse for christmas
I'm booked for the third shot in 2 weeks but apparently picked up a
case of Omicron. Not confirmed due to testing issues - to get tested
you have to line up with all kinds of others including unvaccinated
with Delta - IF you can get a test.
So far basically like a bad cold but with headache. My wife is
coughing worse than I am and is generally just TIRED. Hopefully by the
new year we will be back on track - - -
Sorry to hear that, hope you recover quickly. I know five people here in
the states that got some form of Covid. One is a friend who is a doctor,
he his wife and adult son all got it. Mild symptoms and they are over it.
Other two are a friend's sister and her husband. They both wound up in
the hospital for a few days. Both are back home now, though still sick.
Most likely those first people had Omni, the others Delta, but who knows.
Thanks for admitting that 5/5 of the people you know that got it all recovered. So what are you all worried about you pathetic pansy?
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-03 21:32:44 UTC
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And you're free to do so, but don't expect me to panic over something
that's killed less than 1 in 1000.
I'm not panicked. I don't want to be that 1 in 1000, especially since
it's
pretty easy to avoid infection.
There are a TON of other 1 in 1000 things that can
kill you. Why the unreasonable focus on this one?
Do you have an underlying co-morbidity we all don't
know about?
I do not think we are tending towards the lock down modes taken in other
countries where you cannot leave the house except to work or go to the
store or need to wear a mask even walking alone in the woods. Just
minor everyday cautions.
I was watching the morning news shows along with the fix it shows. Flipping Vegas
has pretty women if nothing else.
No less a health authority than our President said schools should stay open. It's better
for the kids than remote learning. Schools in Nebraska stayed open throughout the
Covid movement as far as I know.
Kids are pretty safe but teachers can become the problem. So far here,
they are open. University of Delaware requires vaccination and booster
for all students.
I'd keep my kids home if that was a requirement.
Peeler
2021-12-29 21:34:40 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 07:36:44 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>
--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rodent:

Senile Rodent: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own shit?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the shit."

MID: <***@mid.individual.net>
Peeler
2021-12-29 21:32:49 UTC
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 20:29:30 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven Wanker","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

<FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
attention-baiting sick bullshit unread again>
--
damduck-***@yahoo.co.uk about Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL)
trolling:
"He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you
make feeds him.
Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone
with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to
the US groups for a new audience.
This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him
to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get
noticed again."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
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ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"You're an annoying troll and I'm done with you and your
stupidity."
MID: <e39a6a7f-9677-4e78-a866-***@googlegroups.com>
--
AndyW addressing Birdbrain:
"Troll or idiot?...
You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning,
historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully
ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information."
MID: <KaToA.263621$***@fx10.am4>
--
Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
--
Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I've never seen such misplaced pride in being a fucking moronic motorist."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
--
Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class
ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in
mental institution.
MID: <VLCdnYC5HK1Z4S3FnZ2dnUU7-***@giganews.com>
--
Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw:
"Ok. I'm persuaded . You are an idiot."
MID: <obru31$nao$***@dont-email.me>
--
DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread."
MID: <4d907253-b3b9-40d4-be4d-***@googlegroups.com>
--
Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey LOL):
"It's like arguing with a demented frog."
MID: <***@dell3100.workgroup>
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Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"the piss poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
several parrots living in his hovel."
MID: <odqtgc$iug$***@dont-email.me>
--
Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
"He's a perennial idiot"
MID: <***@Mars>
--
JoeyDee to Birdbrain
"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments."
MID: <***@news.eternal-september.org>
--
Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be."
MID: <***@brightview.co.uk>
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***@gmail.com asking Birdbrain:
"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?"
MID: <58ddfad5-d9a5-4031-b91f-***@googlegroups.com>
--
Christie addressing endlessly driveling Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander
Kinsey" LOL):
"What are you resurrecting that old post of mine for? It's from last
month some time. You're like a dog who's just dug up an old bone they
hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it."
MID: <***@news.eternal-september.org>
--
Mr Pounder's fitting description of Birdbrain Macaw:
"You are a well known fool, a tosser, a pillock, a stupid unemployable
sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not
be missed."
MID: <orree6$on2$***@dont-email.me>
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Richard to pathetic wanker Hucker:
"You haven't bred?
Only useful thing you've done in your pathetic existence."
MID: <orvctf$l5m$***@gioia.aioe.org>
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***@snyder.on.ca about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
""not the sharpest knife in the drawer"'s parents sure made a serious
mistake having him born alive -- A total waste of oxygen, food, space,
and bandwidth."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
--
Mr Pounder exposing sociopathic Birdbrain:
"You will always be a lonely sociopath living in a shithole with no hot
running water with loads of stinking cats and a few parrots."
MID: <os5m1i$8m1$***@dont-email.me>
--
francis about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"He seems to have a reputation as someone of limited intelligence"
MID: <cf06cdd9-8bb8-469c-800a-***@googlegroups.com>
--
Peter Moylan about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"If people like JWS didn't exist, we would have to find some other way to
explain the concept of "invincible ignorance"."
MID: <otofc8$tbg$***@dont-email.me>
--
Lewis about nym-shifting Birdbrain:
"Typical narcissist troll, thinks his shit is so grand he has the right to
try to force it on everyone."<FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest
trollshit unread>
MID: <***@jaka.local>
Peeler
2021-12-30 15:56:29 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 15:21:50 -0000, Brainless & Daft, the notorious,
I do tend to agree in the main now.
<FLUSH the troll-feeding senile idiot's usual shit>

Yes, YOU, too, had to make your appearance and feed the troll, yet again,
you disgusting idiotic troll-feeding blind mole!
Rod Speed
2021-12-30 18:42:32 UTC
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I do tend to agree in the main now.
I don’t. Our stupid state premier, the equivalent of a prime
minister for a state, has just let it rip and that has seen TEN
times the number of new positives every day.
We have probably done as much as we can to immunise all those we can
Don’t agree with that either. We are still seeing lots of
people getting immunised who hadn't bothered previously
when lots of positives turn up in their town. And that’s
in a state which has about 94% double jabbed.
and apart from boosters with the newer variants then my guess is that its
no worse than other viruses circulating in the population,
Only flu gets close to killing anything like as many.
it just looks bad but one notes those dying and seriously ill are all
those with compromised immune systems
Don’t you care about those getting killed ?
or those who did not get vaccinated.
You unfortunately cannot make a population 100 percent safe,
Yes, but you can certainly do a hell of a lot better than just letting it
rip.
and hindsight is a wonderful thing.
We aren't talking about hindsight.
I personally think given some of the cock ups other governments have made
over the years ours is probably a bit better than most.
Its actually one of the worst outcomes in europe.
I find Boris annoying but then what is he to do?
Not be stupid enough to have that stupid freedom day.
I find it even more annoying that the devolved nations are allowed to do
their own thing on Covid when looking at the same results. It sends mixed
messages to the population.
But its never going to be possible to come to a consensus
on what should be done given so little is known about how
covid pans out early on. The best we can do is see how the
different approaches work out. New Zeeland, Taiwan etc
got a vastly better result than the UK did.
Post by Commander Kinsey
It's coming up on two years now, and they're still fucking us about. My
neighbour (85) was forbidden to see his dying wife during the last 3
weeks of her life, despite them both being triple vaccinated. The morons
in charge need to be jailed now.
A quick google search shows people are not allowed to dance at weddings,
but they can in nightclubs. So not even consistantly stupid.
Commander Kinsey
2022-01-01 17:12:48 UTC
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I do tend to agree in the main now.
I don=E2=80=99t. Our stupid state premier, the equivalent of a prime
minister for a state, has just let it rip and that has seen TEN
times the number of new positives every day.
The weakest links in the gene pool die. We could do with lowering the p=
opulation density.
We have probably done as much as we can to immunise all those we can
Don=E2=80=99t agree with that either. We are still seeing lots of
people getting immunised who hadn't bothered previously
when lots of positives turn up in their town. And that=E2=80=99s
in a state which has about 94% double jabbed.
That's their choice, it doesn't affect the immunised.
and apart from boosters with the newer variants then my guess is that=
its
no worse than other viruses circulating in the population,
Only flu gets close to killing anything like as many.
Try cancer.
I find it even more annoying that the devolved nations are allowed to=
do
their own thing on Covid when looking at the same results. It sends =
mixed
messages to the population.
But its never going to be possible to come to a consensus
on what should be done given so little is known about how
covid pans out early on. The best we can do is see how the
different approaches work out. New Zeeland, Taiwan etc
got a vastly better result than the UK did.
The only sensible thing to do is to release information only and let eac=
h individual decide on their own safety.
T
2022-01-03 12:49:10 UTC
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The only sensible thing to do is to release information only and let each individual decide on their own safety.
Uhhh. Who told you you could made sense?

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